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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/guitars
 

2012 PRS 513

The 513 was, to me, one of the most interesting guitars to roll out of the PRS shop. Boasting a unique pickup and wiring arrangement, it allows for incredible diversity in selecting and splitting pickups.

With 5 single coils and unique wiring, the 513 is able to deliver everything from single coil twang to humbucker crunch, in 13 total combinations.

5 coils, with 13 different configurations, the 513 is my personal "do it all" instrument.

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[–] rusfairfax 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beautiful. What’s the difference between a 513 and a 509?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The 509 is the spiritual successor to the 513. They dropped the 3-way blade switch in favor of two microswitches, and lost 4 of the potential configurations in doing so.

The 3-way blade on the 513 allows a toggle between low output and high output humbucker when the 5-way switch is in a humbucker position. (5-way either fully forward, or fully rear)

So low/high for each humbucker selection are the "missing" configurations between the 509 and 513.

I'm not sure why PRS didn't see much value in that configuration, but it was dropped with the discontinuation of the 513 in 2017, and the introduction of the 509.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think of the difference between Low and High output humbucker sounds? When I read that I figured it could be kinda of a gimmick that isn't terribly useful?

Does it work well as a simple substitute for a boost pedal?

I suspect the thing that would bother me is that I couldn't set the mode differently for each pickup. Like I might want the Neck pickup to be in High mode for a lead part but the Bridge pickup to be in Low Humbucker mode.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's totally gimmicky. And, if I'm honest, that's probably why PRS decided it wasn't super necessary.

You can absolutely notice a boost in volume/gain going between low and high output, but it's limited in use just by nature of being a blade switch. So, in "humbucker mode" you're either in low or high output, and it applies to each set of pickups in the same way. It would be VERY cool to be able to isolate either neck or bridge independently in low/high.

[–] acosmichippo 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

just spitballing, but I would guess the "low" humbucker mode was intended to be balanced when switching between single coil settings, and the "high" mode was there for a more traditional humbucker output.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Entirely possible. :) I'd love to get an interview with Paul on it to see what his thought process was during development.

At the end of the day, I love it for what it is. To me, one of the best things about PRS is that they're not really "bound by tradition" like Fender/Gibson, so Paul and crew can still experiment and change things up. The 513 is for sure the output of that experimentation, and the 509 is an evolution of that.

Don't get me wrong, if I had the money.... oh man the guitars I'd have... but I digress.

[–] baronvonj 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two n-way blade switches would be awkward to keep track of for me. My first guitar was a Samick KJ-560 (HSS) and it has independant two-way on/off toggles for each pickup, and another two-way toggle to split the humbucker. I think that's easier to read at a glance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the 509 went with micro switches for splitting, possibly for very similar reasoning.

[–] baronvonj 3 points 1 year ago

I have a Custom 24-08 and I love the mini toggles.