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[–] Maalus 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's why I used the word "legacy". He took part in the Yalta conference and along with Churchil they basically gave away Polish sovereignity to fucking Stalin. They also gave away Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Chechoslovakia, Romania and East Germany. He literally trusted one of the original invaders in 39'. He is the main reason the cold war even happened.

[–] Glemek 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh. The Yalta Myth, I should've guessed. A contender for the founding enemy within type myth for the modern American far right.

What do you think they should have done instead? Immediately gone to war with the Soviets? Congrats! WW3 is much worse than the cold war.

The Soviets already held nearly the entirety of Poland by the time of the Yalta conference. The rest of the allies probably couldn't have done anything to prevent that level of Soviet imperialism, even militarily. See: operation unthinkable, the korean war, the chinese civil war

A decent essay with citations, even if it is from a firmly neoconservative source. https://nationalinterest.org/article/the-yalta-myth-1052

An article from an american liberal source, responding to the same W. Bush Speech as the previous essay, and whose talking points you echo. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/what-really-happened-at-yalta.html

Finally, to round it out; a pair of articles by Alger Hiss, who attended the Yalta conference, and who was later investigated by McCarthy's House Unamerican Activities Committee, specifically by then rising star Richard Nixon. One from the 50s: https://algerhiss.com/alger-hiss/in-his-own-words/yalta-modern-american-myth/ Another from the 80s: https://algerhiss.com/alger-hiss/in-his-own-words/two-yalta-myths/

[–] Maalus 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What should he have done? Maybe not sell out their allies to an invader. Calling it "a myth" is such a fucking evil take it's not even funny.

[–] Glemek 1 points 2 days ago

That's not an answer. What should he have done? How do you prevent the cold war in February of 1945?