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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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Thinking about an EV? I would strong suggest avoiding a Tesla and picking another brand. (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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CEO of Tesla and acting President-elect Musk is going on a neo-Nazi binge endorsing far right candidates instead of properly running the companies he's involved in such as Tesla.

In addition Tesla is considered one of the most unreliable car brands according to: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-reports-reliability-rankings/

Moreover Tesla has the highest fatal accident rates of all car brands according to: https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highest-fatal-accident-rate-of-all-auto-brands-study/

Also there are privacy implications with using a car that could in theory spy on you: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/massive-trove-of-tesla-files-contains-thousands-of-safety-complaints/

Now that more competent and establish brands are making EVs there's no reason to buy a Tesla if you want an EV. I'm not here to recommend another brand, I'm just here to tell you that your next EV should be anything other than a Tesla.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah we know Tesla sucks

Are you actually asking for honest feedback or just upvotes?

If so, buying any used car is better. If you can get by with a 2008 accord, buy that. Better for the environment than any new electric. If you don't care about the environment and just want an electric for funsies, buy a used (whatever is well rated).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I'm not asking for anything. I just wanted to warn people so they are not stuck with a heap of junk from a company who's CEO endorses neo-Nazi political parties.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't have any data, but I'm surprised if a new electric is worse than a second hand ICE? What's your thinking behind that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reduce, reuse, recycle. Better to use a car that's already made then to make a new one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The second hand ICE keeps you buying new fuel though. With the EV, depending on location, most of your "fuel" is wind and sunshine, maybe nuclear.

With cars, you can't really compare the production alone, they pollute way more after the fact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

You would think that's true but after 50,000KM or so that new car is now essentially carbon neutral, while that old car is still puffing out co2

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That sort of makes sense, but then cars aren't stand alone things, they actively consume to travel. I guess it's a case of how much CO2 (I'm assuming we're ignoring other environment impact for now) is used in manufacture vs driving?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Better yet, buy a bicycle. Of course this doesn't currently work for everyone, but many people could live a better life with just a bike and don't even realize it. Deeply evaluate your own situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Better for the environment than any new electric.

Got any sources on that?