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Human thought crawls at 10 bits per second, Caltech study finds (www.techspot.com)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by FlyingSquid to c/technology

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Thanks to @[email protected] for the links!

Here’s a link to Caltech’s press release: https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/thinking-slowly-the-paradoxical-slowness-of-human-behavior

Here’s a link to the actual paper (paywall): https://www.cell.com/neuron/abstract/S0896-6273(24)00808-0

Here’s a link to a preprint: https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.10234

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[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 month ago (45 children)

How are you measuring it?

[–] Buffalox 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (43 children)

That doesn't really matter, because 1 bit is merely distinguishing between 1 and zero, or some other 2 component value.
Just reading a single word, you understand the word between about 30000 words you know. That's about 15 bits of information comprehended.
Don't tell me you take more than 1.5 second to read and comprehend one word.

Without having it as text, free thought is CLEARLY much faster, and the complexity of abstract thinking would move the number way up.
1 thought is not 1 bit. But can be thousands of bits.

BTW the mind has insane levels of compression, for instance if you think bicycle, it's a concept that covers many parts. You don't have to think about every part, you know it has a handlebar, frame, pedals and wheels. You also know the purpose of it, the size, weight range of speed and many other more or less relevant details. Just thinking bicycle is easily way more than 10 bits worth of information. But they are "compressed" to only the relevant parts to the context.

Reading and understanding 1 word, is not just understanding a word, but also understanding a concept and putting it into context. I'm not sure how to quantize that, but to quantize it as 1 bit is so horrendously wrong I find it hard to understand how this can in any way be considered scientific.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 month ago (42 children)

You are confusing input with throughput. They agree that the input is much greater. It's the throughput that is so slow. Here's the abstract:

This article is about the neural conundrum behind the slowness of human behavior. The information throughput of a human being is about 10 bits/s. In comparison, our sensory systems gather data at ∼1⁢0^9^ bits/s. The stark contrast between these numbers remains unexplained and touches on fundamental aspects of brain function: what neural substrate sets this speed limit on the pace of our existence? Why does the brain need billions of neurons to process 10 bits/s? Why can we only think about one thing at a time? The brain seems to operate in two distinct modes: the “outer” brain handles fast high-dimensional sensory and motor signals, whereas the “inner” brain processes the reduced few bits needed to control behavior. Plausible explanations exist for the large neuron numbers in the outer brain, but not for the inner brain, and we propose new research directions to remedy this.