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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, you're strawmaning. I never argued that Ukraine is a "proper democracy".

My argument is and continues to be that the Ukrainian government is more accountable to it’s population than the Russian government. Therefore the Ukrainian government must value the opinions of the Ukrainian population more than the Russian government values the opinions of the Russian population.

You're argument about Syria is a red herring fallacy. I never argued that authoritarian regimes are immune to their population's opinions. I've been arguing that the more authoritarian a government, the less accountable the government to their population.

At this point, I think you are either incapable of logical reasoning or arguing in bad faith.

[–] BMTea -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My argument is and continues to be that the Ukrainian government is more accountable to it’s population than the Russian government. Therefore the Ukrainian government must value the opinions of the Ukrainian population more than the Russian government values the opinions of the Russian population.

And I, once again, have explained why this doesn't matter because the draft has nothing to do with democratic input. You refuse to address this.

You're argument about Syria is a red herring fallacy.

Your*

And no it isn't.

I've been arguing that the more authoritarian a government, the less accountable the government to their population.

Do you know what MARTIAL LAW means? What the hell are you even talking about? Take a step back - you are arguing that Ukrainian draft officers are having to beat and kidnap men to send to the front line because Ukraine is more accountable to its people. I am arguing that it is necause they have a manpower shortage. You are ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If I take 13 ducks, 4 chickens, 8 fainting goats and a mongoose, and march them in a phalanx designed for geese you wind up 13 knots shy of where you were headed. The ducks vary in color, I'm not quite sure we even have mallards, 2 of the hens keep laying eggs and trying to roost, and the mongoose keeps setting off the bloody goats so they lay ass to the ground toes to the sky until they look like a botched taxidermy. So end over end we are all quacks laying and lying in the mud with a mongoose. Ain't getting far

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

These are more strawman tactics.

you are arguing that Ukrainian draft officers are having to beat and kidnap men to send to the front line because Ukraine is more accountable to its people

I'm not arguing this point.

I am arguing that it is necause they have a manpower shortage

I have never denied that Ukraine has a manpower shortage.

You are ridiculous

And then you call me ridiculous when I didn't make the first point and don't disagree with the second point. This is textbook strawmanning.

I don't think you're arguing in good faith using these tactics.