(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)
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I do agree on this, the EU doesn't just blindly fly out with a proposal, they actually do research before they plan on passing anything.
If the EU knows what it’s doing, why are they only using phone OSes from US based companies? I’d argue that they don’t know what they are doing at all considering they have made extremely little contribution to the space and yet want to regulate those products. Imagine the kind of trash they would have to use if the US companies pulled out of the EU.
And I’m not saying those changes are necessarily negative, I’m saying that the EU is overreaching when they contribute very little at this point. And if you really want to talk about how you “do things differently”, without the US you’d all be using PutinPhones in 2030 and have no environmental regulations at all lol.
If you’re worried about the environment you should be looking at industrial waste from China, not Apple phones.
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The other explanation for lightning on the phone is that it’s a better connector for a phone.
It’s simpler, easier to clean, more durable and is designed to break the cable instead of the phone when twisted or bent.
I don’t know what makes any company make the decisions they do, but it’s easy to see that lightning is a better connector for a phone.
You’re right that usbc supports more lanes and by extension a higher transfer speed and that usbc has a higher voltage power delivery standard.
The better physical port to have on a phone is lightning. It’s more durable, easier to clean, and the cable breaks instead of the port.
The environment phones live in makes those much more important than faster transfers and charging speed (every phone I’ve dealt with from any manufacturer actually throttles back the charging speed to save the battery!).
So while usbc has significant advantages over lightning, it’s physically a bad port to have on a device that’s hanging around in your pocket and that makes it worse.
Citation on the durability claim?
I've been using USB-C since it was released, and none of them ever broke on me.
I’m not aware of anything to cite. It’s kinda common knowledge if you have phones with usbc ports or do microsoldering work. If you have one at hand to look at, just take a gander. The usbc receptacle has more conductors than lightning and they’re thinner and all on a flexible (and breakable) plastic tongue.
In a way it looks like an engineer was playing a cruel joke.
If you just gotta have some kind of data, look up usbc repair videos. There’s a bunch and they showcase all the ways it can get mangled.
I’m not saying it’s a bad port for a desktop or laptop. It’s kinda perfect for those circumstances. Low cycle, relatively clean, etc. A phone needs the exact opposite: high cycle, extreme durability, extreme dirt tolerance, amenable to field expedient cleaning.
The entire point of the USB-C thing is so there is a standard charging port across all mobile devices. I doubt this is some sort of attempt at regulating the technology itself. If something faster comes along then it will organically become the new industry standard, just as every other USB charging port up to this point(e.g micro USB, mini USB). Apple is the outlier because they've kept their proprietary charging port for years, for the sole purpose of being able to set their own price for cables, dongles, etc... and preventing people from buying cheaper 3rd party options.
Without regulations we’d have child labour. Companies only care about profit, and will do their best to get that, and gladly sacrifice customer satisfaction and employee health as far as they believe they can get away with it.
Without regulations companies and employers would screw over their customers and employees left and right. We know this because that’s the reality we live in today.
I agree that politicians tend to be both technologically inept and slow as hell to act, but currently that’s the lesser evil.
This makes no sense. You can opt out of third party stores on both platforms. Adding a choice will never take something away.
Well, no. The app store will come preinstalled on all phones still, meaning as a developer it's in your interest to publish on the first-party store if you want as wide an audience as possible. It might be true that some apps will migrate away from the app store because of Apple's draconian and unresponsive review system, but that's really on them. I don't think most people will though.
It does also open up for things like Microsoft's Game Stream to get an official non-browser app, since Apple currently prohibits that from launching on the app store due to it not meeting their regulatory standards.
Feel like that's a bit comparing apples to oranges. Apps weren't originally acquired through some store on Macs, that's a fairly novel thing. There were package managers and such before that but you'd more or less always get software from the vendor. Disregarding that the original iPhones didn't have apps, as long as apps have been a thing they've always come from the app store.
Sure you can root it and get apps from Cydia and whatnot (if that's still around) but I really don't think many apps will migrate away, at least not fully. Users are lazy, and installing a separate app store or getting an app elsewhere is too much work for some. I don't think you and I fall into that category given the platform we're having this conversation on, but the fediverse is "too unapproachable" for a lot of people, even tech savvy ones, because you can't simply download an app and sign up.
I'm in favour of third party app stores (or just the ability to install apps through the browser, no store attached) simply because I'm miffed my Apple TV cannot run Xbox Game Stream.
Yeah the iPhone was definitely out a bit too early with aiming for webapps. Now the tools and APIs are really mature so webapps are more of an option, but back then? Goodness I dread to think.
I feel this, and it's in large parts why I chose to swap from Android to iOS when I got fed up with manually fixing my OnePlus One back in 2020. I spent 8 hours a day working with tech as it is, I don't want to spend my free-time tweaking Linux or flashing ROMs to my phone.
Time will tell how the third party app stores will turn out, if they turn out at all that is. Apple might still find a way to severely limit them, like restricting API access to apps not installed through the first party app store, or something similar.
For profit company’s aren’t “technologists” either. The non removable battery’s aren’t there for the consumers benefits, they are there to take more control over the repair market … and make more profit. Not to be more techy.
It’s all about market control/money.
USB c is what almost everyone except for Apple has kind of agreed on anyways (except for parts the notebook market and some older tech that still uses micro usb for some reason)
It's not like in 2004, where Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola and so on each had their own plugs...
And take a look at the PC market, where USB has been a thing since 1996 (I definitely did not have to google that *cough cough) ofc the plug evolved, but the design stayed the same so that you can plug 27 year old usb peripherals into your new shiny gaming PC. And I've had phones with USB c since 2016/17, so that has also been around for quite a while now.
About the 3rd party apps I can say: you are always free to stay within the "walled garden". Not just on Apple, but on Android as well.
If it wasn't for privacy I wouldn't need 3rd party stores at all as Google Play features almost every (legal) Android app in existence. 3rd party apps give me the opportunity to choose between a big tech store and a community open source alternative. Having store monopoly increases the risk of dictating "agreements" & levies to app devs who need to submit to get their software to the end user.
I actually do have devices that old. The connector and communications protocol outlived the drivers. It'll be recognized as some sort of USB device, but I can never use it without a VM running an ancient guest OS.
That was my biggest guess that the hardware would work just fine whilst the software would make problems. Maybe one could get it running after doing a bit of tinkering... First guess would have been to try a Linux generic driver or sth... Maybe, with some tinkering, one would get it to work but even the fact that it is still recognised after all that time is amazing...
I mean, a PC the size of a night table shrunk to the size of a pocket watch. Just amazing!