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i'm curious to get some concrete data wrt to worker rights/labour legislation in prc: is it as bad as it's often perceived in the west? has anything changed recently? there's a weird duality to it in my perception, on one side it's a relatively happy nation, but on the other side there is the crazy 996 work schedule, poor safety net that's largely substituted by investment in housing etc 🤔

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[–] EatBorekYouWreck 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really hope you’re right. But this doesn’t seem to settle with the Foxxconn suicides that happened due to low wage and brutal working conditions.

I’m not sure that wage increases is comparable to western countries, in the last 3 decades china has become very rich from being very poor. It is only reasonable that wages will go up. And for numbers: China's gdp rose 1600% in the last 3 decades, it would seem that 400% wage increase keeps most money in the hands of the employers and not in the hands of workers. And in absolute terms, Chinese labor is much much cheaper than any other western country (that’s why China manufactures most of the world’s goods), meaning Chinese workers get much less money for their efforts.

China has a huge housing crisis (just like most other developed countries). The state had built huge ghost cities that nobody wants to live in, people bought unfinished houses and are now refusing to pay their mortgage. Just google china housing crisis and look at the problems it has to face.

China's street poverty and homelessness has not been eradicated

I believe you that unions are strong in china, but having strong unions in my country as well, I can only wonder how corrupt Chinese unions are.

China is not the amazing safe haven you present it to be

[–] remotelove 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The dude is also quoting a CGTN documentary about poverty in China. Just using one state run media source as a reference here just crushes any of his credibility.

He needs a healthy dose of anti-propaganda from serpentza or advchina on YouTube.