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[–] Peasley 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (46 children)

Nothing new here. E2E is only available in one on one chats and is disabled by default. Dont use Telegram if privacy is your main concern.

At least it has an open-source client. Very few messaging platforms can say that, and fewer have a decent UX.

It's not perfect, but it's got a good combination of features and multi-platform availability. None of the other messaging apps support all of my devices except Matrix, and ~~Matrix doesn't have stickers~~

Edit: Signal doesn't support all my devices but maybe someday! The network effect is also big. None of my family and friends are on Signal, but most have Telegram. A few have Matrix.

Also Signal is a US-based company.

Edit 2: Matrix does have stickers, i guess I'm switching

[–] r0ertel 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on your last sentence? Is the US more or less trustworthy than alternatives?

[–] Peasley 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Less than some. The US gov has a history of forcing US-based corporations to disclose private data regardless of their policies or the law.

I can't give you a good alternative though. I'm sure the same thing happens in many countries

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A good alternative is a federated, selfhosted solution hosted in a jurisdiction unfriendly to yours.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

in a jurisdiction unfriendly to yours

Doesn't need to be unfriendly, just needs to not kow-tow to your jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you want to self-host chat, Conduit (implementation of a Matrix server) is really nice. Much better than the official Matrix implementation (Synapse).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yes!! I hosted it, indeed much lighter on resources! Broke encrypted rooms a few times, but overall was fine. However, it lacks deletion of old media and messages, so I broke it while trying to delete big media one by one (it broke displaying of ALL media). And when I reinstalled, a reinstall just didn't launch. So... While it is 100% on me, feels like it's still not the optimal solution if you're constrained on disk space.

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