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Pretty exciting times ahead as Valve might finally release SteamOS to more hardware. This amount of Linux desktop coverage would be unimaginable few years ago.

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[–] Presi300 5 points 1 week ago (18 children)

I feel like that's good for the wrong reasons.

I hope GN complains about how certain things that should have been fixed years ago are still broken because of bike shedding.

It is a weird decision to me though, because as much as I like Linux, the Linux desktop isn't at all a stable platform. Your experience can be vastly different depending on what distro, mesa version, display server, driver, etc you use. So in a way, I wonder if they'll bother to show "the best case scenario" or just go with what's most popular.

Hot take: If they are doing it, they should use what's most popular and if it's bad, sh!t on it, as that seems to be the only way to get long standing issues fixed...(look at pop!os and KDE as an example)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

Show me a stable windows desktop.(The same applies to Windows.)

[–] hellofriend 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, Windows is undeniably more stable than certain linux configurations. Nothing will ever be 100% stable, but if you compare Windows to basically any rolling release distro, Windows is gonna be more stable. That's just the nature of the two things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

You say it's because of configs etc., i.e. problems caused by the user. That is a serious difference. You should also narrow it down to SteamOS, Garuda, Bazzite, CachyOS or one of the other distributions designed for gaming. After all, these are also experiencing the most growth in gaming from people leaving Windows behind.

Windows and stable? So blue screens during OS installation are stable? Windows didn't catch on because it was stable. It stole the most important thing and then the dirty gag contracts where Intel and Nvidia were also involved. That's the only reason why this trickery has prevailed. Windows is and always has been rubbish, but MS knew how to damage competitors and secure a monopoly position. Windows and stable are a joke.

Every OS was programmed by humans and contains errors. This does not apply to just one OS or the other. In addition, faulty software also runs on faulty hardware. From this point of view, stable is no longer possible with today's CPUs, even if you counteract this via microcode.

[–] hellofriend 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Literally read past the word "configurations" and you'll see that I'm talking about how a distro is configured by its maintainers AKA the meta level, not fucking dotfiles. Grow a brain.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

That's why I mentioned certain distributions afterwards. But thinking doesn't seem to be one of your strengths. If you are going to compare then only with distributions that focus on gaming. Everything else is completely idiotic with the huge variety of distributions available. Of course it's easy to choose a completely different one and then make mimimi... but you don't try to install current games in ms-dos, for example... that would be just as much of an inane comparison.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

blue screens during OS installation are stable?

You’re acting like millions of people are affected by this regularly. Let’s pick out the myriad of issues Linux installs reveal to folks. The research necessary just to get started scares most people away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What do you have to tinker with first so that you can only install a local account? Or so that the whole thing also runs on older hardware without TPM. People also have to look on the web to see what needs to be fixed during the installation... and then, depending on the version, install Manuel group policies and everything. You also have to fiddle around with Windows, which makes more and more people switch.What do you first have to fiddle around with the OS installation so that you can install with a local account? Or so that the whole thing also runs on older hardware without TPM. People also have to look on the web to see what needs to be fixed during the installation... and then, depending on the version, install Manuel group policies and everything. You also have to fiddle around with Windows, which makes more and more people switch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

When you boot Mint OS onto a Mac it literally doesn’t have functioning wifi.

You do not have to fiddle with windows as much as Linux. That’s ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't buy a Mac in the first place just to slap another OS on it. Why an example with a closed ecosystem? Do you even get Windows installed there and if so, with how much fiddling? There are reasons why MS uses its own linux distribution internally. Even with tabs etc and functions that other distributions have been using for decades, Windows still has problems. So stable that you still use the NT kernel... because ms is no longer capable of programming something like that and it will take several Windows versions to get rid of legacy issues... After all, the UI is no longer a single process that regularly kills the entire desktop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I’m sorry but you’re just never going to convince me that you have to tinker more with Windows than you do with Linux OS’s if you want to use either as your daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It was never my intention to say that you have to tinker more with Windows, but that you have to tinker with Windows just like with Linux. The same applies to Macs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Oh come the fuck on dude.

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