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Yeah, that "bit" of nuance is that it's not true.
Some banks forbade women from opening bank accounts in states where the right wasn't already guaranteed until the 1974 federal passing of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act guaranteed the right to all citizens.
It sucks. But, don't lie. We don't manipulate. We teach.
What would you call it when the ability to deny accounts to women was present and practiced?
Grave injustice.
Right, but because it occurred, that means it's true that women were denied the ability to open accounts. Black people did submit ballots before the voting rights act, but that doesn't mean it's untrue to say that black people weren't allowed to vote.
But the statement "women weren't allowed to get a bank account in the USA until 1974" is false. Women were allowed to. And banks, depending on the area, were allowed to deny them service merely for being women. That was the bad thing that got rectified in 1974.
The "women weren't allowed" is hyperbole at best, and lying at worst, to try to overemphasize what is already an injustice, and makes it easy for those that would argue with the general point being made by dismissing something that is clearly and demonstrably false. It hurts the argument.
And if the idea you are professing is that if even two women were denied access to bank accounts, then "women were not allowed to have bank accounts" was still true and accurate, then you (and the OP) are being deliberately misleading.
The reality is, it was shitty that it was legal and acceptable in the past to discriminate based on race, gender, or any of the other protected classes of today. It's bad enough as it was without suggesting "women weren't allowed to get bank accounts" or "black people weren't allowed to buy samdwiches" (because it was legal for a restaurant to deny service based on race).
Are you aware of why 1974 is significant?
That's when Abba won the Eurovision song contest with Waterloo. I mean, that's the important thing here.
Oh, and also the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974, which made it illegal to discriminate based on gender, race, and a number of other things, which is exactly what I was talking about when I said that in my previous comment. "That's what got rectified in 1974."
It's the year my sister was born.
What's true for one is true for all! My God, how could I be so stupid? Thank you so much. Without your brilliant insight I might never have reasoned this out for myself.
Why do you feel that they're incomparable?