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[–] justsomeguy 35 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Always hated that argument for big cars. You buy a new bed/mattress/big furniture like once a year. Delivery is maybe 50 bucks. The extra cost of a car big enough to transport that stuff is in the thousands. Somehow everyone gets upset when confronted with delivery fees while being perfectly fine with dishing out cash for a car. Redo the fucking math.

[–] Bye 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think that’s a bit of an oversimplification of the argument

I use my car to transport my bike, surfboard, skis, dog, lawnmower, buy furniture, buy lumber etc for projects, and more. It just can’t be beat in terms of convenience. For repairs around the house, gardening, etc, it’s a must-have.

A 1998 CR-V does all that and it cost me $2500. Bomb-proof b20b also, I love it. I don’t think you can beat that in terms of convenience.

I’m all for trains and buses (electric busses would be great!) but the utility wanes when lots of people bring stuff. I used to have a 45 minute bus commute, and the bus had racks for bikes. I’d bring my bike to do the 5 mile trip to and from bus stops at both ends. But lots of people wanted to do that, and you’d have to be early in line to get your bike on the bus, otherwise you had to wait for the next one. I can’t imagine people trying to bring 2x4s or potted plants on the bus! Or their pets, another issue altogether.

[–] arbitrary -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So you'll buy an electric car for some 20k+ once that car breaks down to haul your frequent furniture and lumber purchases?

Because the discussion isn't about 'I have a car and won't exchange it for a train' but 'moving transportation onto trains instead of electric cars would be a lot more beneficial as the future of transportation'

[–] Getawombatupya 2 points 1 year ago

As soon as car makers start releasing electric vehicles that aren't concept art and actually useful, I'm first in line. Waiting for phev suv or ute to make it's way to Oz. (The Mitsubishi only has a phev range of about40km, doesn't cut it for even a local commute

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