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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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A great example of corporate/state propaganda. Go fuck yourself Bret.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] _stranger_ 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No one ever cares here. The NYT does this explicitly to avoid being an echo chamber but, well, people love echo chambers.

[–] Aqarius 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean "launder shit they couldn't in a million years justify publishing otherwise"?

This was also an editorial: https://workingclasshistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/02.03-irrefutable-Washington-Post.jpg

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm confused, this is an article from the Washington Post?

[–] Aqarius -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are confused: it's an editorial from the Washington Post.

[–] _stranger_ 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok, but isn't the OP about the NYT?

[–] Aqarius 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The root comment of this chain, to which you responded to, is, in it's entirety:

opinion columnist

It does not specify a paper. Nor is the practice of employing columnists for opinion laundering limited to the NYT.

[–] _stranger_ 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, but the context of the post is NYT. Feel free to start your own thread about the WP I guess?

[–] Aqarius 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, the context is opinion columns. Or are you making the claim that NYT, specifically, does not engage in the practice, unlike WaPo?

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No I'm making that claim that the title to this post has the world's New York Times in the title and you're deciding you want to have a different conversation, which is fine, but why do you gotta hijack someone else's thread to do it? Make your own post and do it there.

[–] Aqarius 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. Once again, the root post of this chain is, in it's entirety ">opinion columnist". Your response is that NYT does this to prevent echo chambers. My response is to object, not to the NYT part, but to the to prevent echo chambers part.

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're choosing to ignore that the branch post you're referring to is responding to the root post about the New York Times.

Here's some facts, about the NYT (from when they were called op-ed pieces, it was changed in 2021):

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/insider/opinion-op-ed-explainer.html

The Opinion section operates editorially independently from the rest of the newspaper. It is the section’s unique mission both to be the voice of The Times, and to challenge it. The Op-Ed pages were born, in part, because of the closing of New York’s top conservative newspaper, The New York Herald Tribune. They were created to be opposite the editorial pages — and not just physically.

The funny part is that I think pretty much everyone hates them, and that's kind of the point. If you never read anything outside of your echo chamber, you'll never know how absolutely ridiculous some of these very widely believed opinions are.

[–] Aqarius 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, yes I am choosing to ignore it, because it's irrelevant to the point I'm making, because the point I'm making is that they're not there to break up the echo chamber, they're the second wall of it, and unless you make a special case for the NYT, they are neither exempt not unique about it.

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well I'm glad you're back on track talking about the subject at hand. Took you a while but you got there. Maybe don't take so many detours next time.

Regarding the subject at hand, I guess you're entitled to your own opinion then too, aren't you?

[–] Aqarius 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...I'm sorry, I think you meant to post this in reply to a different post.

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Aqarius 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you sure you're not just confused again?

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 6 days ago

I'm just happy you agreed to stick to the topic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Opinion columnist who they saw fit to print. Do you see any opinions there that are examining why the murder has been so widely celebrated, rather than manufactured consent crap like this?