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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/14195662

This is in regards to the brand-new [email protected] community.

And by more serious discussions I mean e.g. the legality of the recent jury nullification issue, which I don't want to allow if I were a moderator in it.

If you say yes you will be granted the community "ownership" as the sole moderator. I've only been a mod myself on Lemmy for less than a day but we'll figure out how to transfer it to you. You can ofc always add new mods and change it however you like after that. The advantage here is chiefly that you get the community "name" AskUSA, whereupon I could later create e.g. a CasualUSA but you would have the privileges of that specific name, to match the style of e.g. AskUK or AskLemmy (or AskScience or AskMen or AskElectronics or AskAndroid etc. - there are so many here using that style:-).

I don't want to be involved in something that is going to constantly be depressing to me, though I do recognize the need for such and am offering the community "name" if someone else wants to pick up that mantle.

While if nobody says yes then I suppose I'll just keep it going in the more CasualUSA light-hearted style, until such time as someone does. Either way I'll offer to help grow it by posting and commenting to it regularly - unless you want me to stop b/c I tend to be really bad at guessing what people want to see (e.g. personally I love John Oliver and also got involved in the Reddit protests, so why people are downvoting sexy pics of JO on Lemmy of all places... I seriously have no clue).

The community also needs moderators to help in general - so even if you don't want to take it over, would you like to help moderate it if it were to remain a more casual, light-hearted community?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (15 children)

The admin of Midwest.Social has been known for a long while now to be that way - though unlike the big 3, it's not full-on tankie b/c it seems so far to merely be the admin but most of the users are not that way? Still, after the big 3, it's the #1 instance I am aware of that comes the closest to being tankie, as you can see from peeking at its content.

I think using your LW account should be fine? Or perhaps we should add both your dubvee.org and LW accounts, for convenience? Mostly I'm waiting to see if a second mod would join, then I could add them, tell them to add you, and then you'd be good to go. Or if nobody does, then I could just add you directly and immediately - allthough if I do that, and subsequently someone joins the team, then you would become the new "head mod", needing for you to be removed, then go through the procedure above in order for you to be merely a mod but not at the top. Gaaah, hijinks needing to be jumped through here!?!:-P

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I wasn't really familiar with Beehaw for most of my time on the Fediverse, but now that I do I kinda like it - and yet don't (or at least am not entirely sure) at the same time, b/c I saw for instance people advocating for actual murder there, right after Donald Trump won the election, which seems not entirely within the spirit of what they are aiming for? Or perhaps it somehow is (blowing off steam maybe?) and I simply don't get their odd rules for what is or is not allowed? In any case, I've never had any issues conversing with anyone from there, or commenting in any of their communities, which is a rare thing to be able to say on the Fediverse, so they seem very non-toxic as a whole, and that I love!:-D

And yes, I worried exactly about your blind spots - in fact I was going to ask about them - as well as those of my own. Although regarding the latter, Lemmy's instance-level blocks are so ineffectual that they shouldn't matter - e.g. I have such a block for lemmy.ml, yet am able to see those comments in the community and respond to them, and receive notifications from them too. But I don't know about your own true defederation with ML: I would love for DO to have defederated from ML as well, but as long as that has not happened yet... we don't want them to be able to post/comment but for mods to not be able to see that content. Which for a LW account definitely will not be an issue. But I don't know if you would be able to see those from dubvee.org? Anyway you definitely know a lot more about modding, in general and especially using Tesseract, than I!:-)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I think using your LW account should be fine?

Remote accounts don't get the reports

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Damn. I've seen things like The_Picard_Maneuver moderating TenForward from both LW and STW, but that must be purely a "convenience" thing. You have enough alts and Fedi-knowledge that I believe that if there was a way to receive those, that you of all people would know:-).

So I guess at least one top mod needs to have a DO account then, while other mods can help curate but they'd be doing it entirely without being able to view the reports?

[–] admiralpatrick 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

FYI: I just added my DO account to the team so I have a local account for seeing reports (which apparently don't federate). I'll just switch between all 3 to check in.

Edit: I did that from LW, but it either hasn't yet federated to DO or it got lost in federation. I'll give it a while to catch up on its own, but may need to have you do it "locally"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You might/probably need to make a comment or post within this community first before that can happen. Your last/only comment from that account was from 17 days though. Make a comment reply from that account here, and then we can add it to the mod list as well (I'll make sure to do it - unless you tell me to wait to see if you are capable of doing so remotely, as a test?).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And within a minute, you are added as mod:-).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Awesome. If you want (I tried, and can't since that one is a "higher mod" than this one), you can un-mod my LW account. Since there's sometimes significant federation delay from LW, prob better to not be tempted to issue mod actions from there.

Sorry for the back/forth on that. I was under the impression that the cross-instance moderation had improved in recent versions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Done! If you ever want it readded (and need help with that I guess) let me know and I'm happy to.

No worries - I had similar thoughts about the cross instance federation of reports, perhaps bc people seemed to be complaining about it less than the past, but probably people simply got tired of saying it all the time:-D. Or more likely it seems to be that modding itself is so problematic in general that it is merely one of the many bad things about doing that activity.:-( I guess I'll find out!:-)

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