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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/14195662

This is in regards to the brand-new [email protected] community.

And by more serious discussions I mean e.g. the legality of the recent jury nullification issue, which I don't want to allow if I were a moderator in it.

If you say yes you will be granted the community "ownership" as the sole moderator. I've only been a mod myself on Lemmy for less than a day but we'll figure out how to transfer it to you. You can ofc always add new mods and change it however you like after that. The advantage here is chiefly that you get the community "name" AskUSA, whereupon I could later create e.g. a CasualUSA but you would have the privileges of that specific name, to match the style of e.g. AskUK or AskLemmy (or AskScience or AskMen or AskElectronics or AskAndroid etc. - there are so many here using that style:-).

I don't want to be involved in something that is going to constantly be depressing to me, though I do recognize the need for such and am offering the community "name" if someone else wants to pick up that mantle.

While if nobody says yes then I suppose I'll just keep it going in the more CasualUSA light-hearted style, until such time as someone does. Either way I'll offer to help grow it by posting and commenting to it regularly - unless you want me to stop b/c I tend to be really bad at guessing what people want to see (e.g. personally I love John Oliver and also got involved in the Reddit protests, so why people are downvoting sexy pics of JO on Lemmy of all places... I seriously have no clue).

The community also needs moderators to help in general - so even if you don't want to take it over, would you like to help moderate it if it were to remain a more casual, light-hearted community?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (15 children)

The admin of Midwest.Social has been known for a long while now to be that way - though unlike the big 3, it's not full-on tankie b/c it seems so far to merely be the admin but most of the users are not that way? Still, after the big 3, it's the #1 instance I am aware of that comes the closest to being tankie, as you can see from peeking at its content.

I think using your LW account should be fine? Or perhaps we should add both your dubvee.org and LW accounts, for convenience? Mostly I'm waiting to see if a second mod would join, then I could add them, tell them to add you, and then you'd be good to go. Or if nobody does, then I could just add you directly and immediately - allthough if I do that, and subsequently someone joins the team, then you would become the new "head mod", needing for you to be removed, then go through the procedure above in order for you to be merely a mod but not at the top. Gaaah, hijinks needing to be jumped through here!?!:-P

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I wasn't really familiar with Beehaw for most of my time on the Fediverse, but now that I do I kinda like it - and yet don't (or at least am not entirely sure) at the same time, b/c I saw for instance people advocating for actual murder there, right after Donald Trump won the election, which seems not entirely within the spirit of what they are aiming for? Or perhaps it somehow is (blowing off steam maybe?) and I simply don't get their odd rules for what is or is not allowed? In any case, I've never had any issues conversing with anyone from there, or commenting in any of their communities, which is a rare thing to be able to say on the Fediverse, so they seem very non-toxic as a whole, and that I love!:-D

And yes, I worried exactly about your blind spots - in fact I was going to ask about them - as well as those of my own. Although regarding the latter, Lemmy's instance-level blocks are so ineffectual that they shouldn't matter - e.g. I have such a block for lemmy.ml, yet am able to see those comments in the community and respond to them, and receive notifications from them too. But I don't know about your own true defederation with ML: I would love for DO to have defederated from ML as well, but as long as that has not happened yet... we don't want them to be able to post/comment but for mods to not be able to see that content. Which for a LW account definitely will not be an issue. But I don't know if you would be able to see those from dubvee.org? Anyway you definitely know a lot more about modding, in general and especially using Tesseract, than I!:-)

[–] admiralpatrick 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah, Midwest doesn't seem too bad overall. I wasn't aware of the admin's stances on things until recently, though. I'm not considering defederating or blocking them or anything like that, though the stance on calling for violence and doxxing has caused me some policy problems.

I think using your LW account should be fine? Or perhaps we should add both your dubvee.org and LW accounts

Probably just the LW one would be fine. I already switch back and forth regularly to mod a couple communities on LW anyway.

then go through the procedure above in order for you to be merely a mod but not at the top

I made that a lot easier to handle in Tesseract through the mod team management panel, but the one thing I'm not clear on is if only admins can transfer the community or if the "top mod" can as well (I think both, but don't hold me to that). There's also a Lemmy bug where "top mod" can do things that admins even can't (which i need to submit an issue for, but I forget the exact circumstances to trigger it, and it's annoying to recover from lol).

Beehaw for most of my time on the Fediverse, but now that I do I kinda like it - and yet don't (or at least am not entirely sure) at the same time, b/c I saw for instance people advocating for actual murder there

Yeah, I'm not sure. I squash that kind of rhetoric pretty quickly locally (regardless of who it's directed at). I do know they mod heavily, but there definitely seems to be some lag (I don't think they have community mods; the admin team is also the mod team for all their communities). I don't think I ever checked back on some of the stuff I reported to see how it was handled.

But I don't know if you would be able to see those from dubvee.org?

No, I would have to federate with an instance to see content from there, even if it's relayed through a third instance (DO in this case).

I don't block any users on my LW account, and Tesseract has some safeguards in place so that if you block an instance the content from that instance still shows up in communities you're a moderator of (e.g. I did block .ml on my LW account, and I typically don't see any content from its users except in the communities I moderate there).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Probably just the LW one would be fine. I already switch back and forth regularly to mod a couple communities on LW anyway.

Remote accounts don't get the reports

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744

[–] admiralpatrick 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah, I think I knew that (or realized it anecdotally) though wasn't aware there was an actual bug for it . I just switch between my two accounts to check throughout the day which works around that, but those communities are all on LW.

I guess I could just switch between all 3 and use my DO one for this (no big deal since I can have multiple profiles).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

That would be great!

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