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Democratic strategists are still patting themselves on the back for a catastrophic defeat.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

All she had to say was:

"Israel had a right to defend itself, however after their indescriminate attacks on civillians in Gaza, not just the men, but also, the women and children, an act that clearly and undeniably violate internation laws, Israel no longer have the right to defend itself. I will immediately call on President Biden to suspend any and all military aid to Israel. Futhermore, sanctions will be imposed on Israel until they cease their indiscriminate killings."

Then actually make Biden do it. Kneecap him if he doesn't.

And for domestic policy:

"As president, I ensure every American has access to healthcare by calling on Congress to pass legislation that would make Medicare For All a reality in America."

There, campaign saved. Just keep up the public appearances, talk to people, and win the election.

But unfortunately, that's a different timeline. This timeline is fucked.

[–] spongebue 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think far too many people see the price of groceries, fall for the GOP line that it's Biden's fault (and that deporting all illegal immigrants will help) and think Trump will save the day.

Like, yeah, post-covid recovery has been hard. Mostly stagnant wages don't help. People feel that. Unfortunately it's harder to feel the fact that other countries are feeling the exact same things, often worse than we are, so they vote for some weird nostalgia for the days when things were better under Trump.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sanders said it perfectly in his open letter after the election.

While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they're right.

Today, while the very rich are doing phenomenally well, 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and we have more income and wealth inequality than ever before. Unbelievably, real, inflation-accounted-for weekly wages for the average American worker are actually lower now than they were 50 years ago.

Democrats just didn't do enough to make people believe that their lives would change for the better from them. Continuing the status quo is not something they wanted to hear.

[–] spongebue 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can agree with that. People are so sick of things they want a disruptor. It's hard to present yourself as that when you're currently in office.

Going to the comment I replied to, most people don't really know or care enough about what's going on in Palestine right now. Not that that shouldn't, just that they don't (but admittedly those who do could be critical in Michigan). Medicare for all is certainly a disruptive idea, but it's only a piece of what makes a person a disruptor. One that I'd bet not everyone fully understands.

[–] clutchtwopointzero 5 points 17 hours ago

Only a vocal, very noisy minority care about Palestine. The rest pretend to care to avoid being "cancelled". And the narrow voting marging showed that.

[–] AWistfulNihilist 1 points 23 hours ago

I think Palestine was a demotivating factor for a lot of people, Michigan was still a pretty incredible outlier, but Trump picked up Muslim and Arab American voters across the board. A deciding factor? No, but a factor.

Now immigration... I've talked to people who've voted democratic by rote for their entire lives who voted for Trump over immigration. It was an extremely effective talking point that was ignored by Dems early on, then ceded to Republicans.

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