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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The State Department aligned "leftists" appear to be mad. I wonder if they're genuinely aware of NATO leaders like Adolf Heusinger, who fought for the Nazis, but simply think that's acceptable for a millitary alliance of genocidal imperialists as long as they maintain Western Hegemony (that they benefit from, of course), or if they genuinely have no idea. Neither option is good.

[–] SmoothOperator 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, not every member of the German forces in WWII was a bad guy. Lenin himself argued for solidarity among soldiers on both sides to fight the capitalist class instead of eachother.

Your link doesn't seem to describe him as a Nazi ideologue as much as just a German military leader. While I am highly critical of the imperialist ambitions of the West, the fact that Heusinger became a NATO leader does not really make a convincing argument for anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lenin argued in the context of WWI, not WWII. Nazism is an existential threat towards Communism, whereas WWI was more purely an Imperialist War.

Secondly, Heusinger was a Nazi general. You don't become a high ranking millitary officer like that without steadfast support for the Nazi cause. This wasn't someone drafted off the street, but someone ideologically convicted and working for the express purpose of Nazi domination, eradication of Communism and the Jewish peoples, as well as Slavs.

I really cannot believe you are trying to carry water for a Nazi general.

[–] SmoothOperator 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not trying to carry any water, just trying to bolster our arguments.

  • All soldiers in all wars should realize that they have more in common with the enemy soldier than with their capitalist overlords. Surely you agree, even counting Nazi Germany.
  • I had no idea that he was that convinced a nazi. The link you shared talks about him being purged by Hitler and being a witness in the Nuremberg trials. Or did I misread it?
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

You should understand that soldiers choosing to fight for Nazi Germany are not the same as soldiers choosing to fight against Nazi Germany. Nazis are Nazis.

Secondly, again, Heusinger was a Nazi general. His actions in the post-WWII era out of self-preservation do not aquit him of fighting for the Nazis in a far more committed position than a simple footsoldier drafted from the street.

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