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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Doubt. Doesn't include any of the statements authorities have quoted. They also mentioned the handwritten manifesto was 262 words.

Even if this isn't the manifesto, his family had money, this reads like it was written by a high schooler, and it was posted yesterday.

real one was just posted https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I doubt anything NYPD has published so far. it's all sus.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This does seem very amateurish (Gladiator, Greenday, "smile through the pain"). These are emo tropes. I'd be disappointed to know it's him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You'd be disappointed if he isn't also a genius writer?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not necessarily but basing an idealogy in fantasy (as he talks about the emperor being god in gladiator) neglects reality. Anger and whatever sense of righteousness you subscribe to should be based firmly in reality, otherwise you'll find you are acting on nothing but hypotheticals.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't see the issue in quoting works of fiction if you think they express something you're trying to say. People quote Shakespeare all the time to make a point but nobody cares because that's old and accepted. No I'm not saying Gladiator is on a level with Shakespeare but there's a weird imbalance in what you're allowed to quote in your argument and what not. If the imagery spoke to him, why not?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Point taken. I will admit I have been more critical given I don't believe this is real.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

I don't see the issue in quoting works of fiction

Otherwise the whole of marxism would be off limits

[–] frostysauce -1 points 1 day ago

Did... Did you just gatekeep anger?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I liked that the writer stuck with clear and simple english instead of flowering up their prose, but I just feel that using borrowed quips and popart philosophy isn't an honest way to write. It feels more in line with a teen or a young adult trying to find their voice in the words of others (and we've all been there)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still feel being "disappointed" is harsh. He's 26 and just wanted his thoughts out. He may have been trying, maybe even subconsciously, to emulate some literary devices more or less successfully in an effort to better convey his feelings but I really don't think the point was to write great literature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To theirs credit, the part about watching their mother suffer was very relatable and felt extremely honest. I guess I was hoping that they would open with something like that instead of talking about their philosophy first. You're right though, the writer is likely young and I shouldn't expect so much.