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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I've always said this but got chased out of the room (downvoted to hell), peaceful protest is a bunch of bullshit and won't do shit. It never will. It's always just ignored. Rioting and violence IS the only option when protesting peacefully is ignored. I mean look at the George Floyd protests and how they actually made change. Look at the French and their protests.....etc. Peaceful protesting is quite literally a bunch of people kidding themselves.

[–] Stovetop 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

People love to use examples like MLK and Gandhi as the poster children for peaceful protest achieving results, and years ago I'd have naively agreed.

But the reality of it is that they could not have succeeded without the threat of violence from more militant alternatives, such as Malcolm X/The Black Panthers or the Ghadar revolutionaries/Babbar Akali Sikhs.

It's the carrot-and-stick metaphor. The powers that be will ignore any nonviolent attempts for reform until a violent movement makes the nonviolent alternative more appealing.

Capitalism has long asserted that there are checks in place to protect people. Consumer protection laws, industry regulations, collective bargaining, and voting with your wallet are some of the myths that capitalism says are supposed to stop bad businesses from hurting people. But when we see these systems failing en masse, and the powers that be refuse to do anything about it, what recourse is left?

[–] Moc 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People don't understand that more than protecting people, social policies such as housing, welfare, and medical aid programs protect the capitalist system itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

social policies such as housing, welfare, and medical aid programs protect the capitalist system itself.

It was not always like this but yes over as 40 years the money has been looted and used against the working class.

It took wage slaves all this time but I think it is finally registering:

How is everybody working so hard, we are working more and we are more productive but nobody but few have any more money

The money is being extracted via complex legal, social and propaganda mechanisms and we are letting it happen by being obedient dogs fighting rich man's fake news stories.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you take a look at europe, there is plenty of countries who score way better on these issues, and the underlying system is still capitalism. It might not be perfect but if you include a social aspect and regulate in the interest of the population I believe it is the best system we have.

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