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The GPT Era Is Already Ending (www.theatlantic.com)

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If this is the way to superintelligence, it remains a bizarre one. “This is back to a million monkeys typing for a million years generating the works of Shakespeare,” Emily Bender told me. But OpenAI’s technology effectively crunches those years down to seconds. A company blog boasts that an o1 model scored better than most humans on a recent coding test that allowed participants to submit 50 possible solutions to each problem—but only when o1 was allowed 10,000 submissions instead. No human could come up with that many possibilities in a reasonable length of time, which is exactly the point. To OpenAI, unlimited time and resources are an advantage that its hardware-grounded models have over biology. Not even two weeks after the launch of the o1 preview, the start-up presented plans to build data centers that would each require the power generated by approximately five large nuclear reactors, enough for almost 3 million homes.

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[+] Buffalox -6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Infinite monkeys and infinite time is equally stupid, because obviously you can't have either, for the simple reason that the universe is finite.
And apart from that, it's stupid because if you use an infinite random, EVERYTHING is contained in it!

I'm sorry it just annoys the hell out of me, because it's a thought experiment, and it's stupid to use this as an analogy or example to describe anything in the real world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You wouldn't need infinite time if you had infinite monkeys.

An infinite number of them would produce it on the very first try!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Then the fun part is finding which monkey has the result...

[–] Buffalox -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You wouldn’t need infinite time if you had infinite monkeys.

Obviously, but as I wrote BOTH are impossible, so it's irrelevant. I just didn't think I'd have to explain WHY infinite monkeys is impossible, while some might think the universe is infinite also in time, which it is not.

I also already wrote that if you have an infinite string everything is contained in it.
But even with infinite moneys it's not instant, because technically each monkey needs to finish a page.

But I understand what you mean, and that's exactly why the theorem is so stupid IMO. You could also have 1 monkey infinite time.
But both are still impossible.

When I say it's stupid, I don't mean as a thought experiment which is the purpose of it. The stupid part is when people think they can use it as an analogy or example to describe something

[–] Sheldan 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a theorem. It's theoretical. This is like complaining about the 20 watermelon example being unrealistic: that's not what it is about.

[–] Buffalox 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's OK it exist, it's a thought that is curious enough. I'd even go so far and say it can have an educational function for children.
I just don't get why some people seem to think it's relevant in so many situations where clearly it's not.