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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Market linked retirement funds, imo rank among one of the worst regressions in American governance/society.

It broke the employer:employee relationship where your work provides a pension, and you are secured in your old age for loyalty and time worked.

It directly enabled an emboldened a new group of parasites, who run hedge funds to gamble with other people’s money whilst skimming fees up and down the transaction flows. You win, I win - you loose, I win.

And those ‘smart people’ crash the economy every 10-15 years due to their collective greed and over leveraging in order to take the maximum profit they can - or society as a whole “lands softy” due to central banks fiscal policy via inflation, and we all see where that’s landed us.

[–] someguy3 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well those hedge fund managers still worked when it was DB pensions. But it just seemed to not be as crazy as it is now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A DB plan at least locked in your retirement payout, allowing much more security of income than being left to the wolves in the stock market.

I’ve seen multiple workers who need to retire, it was past their planned date to retire despite saving for their entire lives, because ‘the market’ wiped out a chunk of their retirement package.

[–] someguy3 1 points 3 days ago

Yes DB is better for the person. I'm saying on the market and fund manager side it didn't really matter. I don't think DC contributed more to risk taking or the crazy maximizing, that just seemed to happen from greed and other factors.