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[–] veganpizza69 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, they have no way to stop it with incremental regulations. Incredible monitoring would be practical for them, but the inescapable part of biosecurity for animal raising is that the animals are killed (before they're killed at slaughter). It becomes a regular and constant loss. Without monitoring, and with regular bailouts, what you end up is a system that breeds massive numbers of soon-to-be-killed animals in order to fill up holes in the ground with their corpses. The obvious fact that everyone is shying away from is that the sector needs to be shrunk or closed down, much like the wild animal farms in China (see: SARS-CoV-2).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

look I dont think the author is wrong, I just dont think americans will give up beef as they like to believe they still live in the frontier

[–] veganpizza69 1 points 1 week ago

It's not really an option. The real question is if people will be fine with promoting famine (could be far away) instead of eating rice and beans.

Here's an example from about a century ago: https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/troy-vettese-do-not-let-them-eat-meat/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

did you read the article? the author writes that the country has to move away from animal protein if they hope to stem the tide of pandemics

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess I don't understand your statement about "believing they are on the frontier" like, what does that have to do with eating beef? Do you think that people somehow associate cowboys with hamburgers? That's definitely an outside perspective and a weird one at that, if that's what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

im saying many people in america still like to think about the states in some kind of frontier fantasy with unlimited space and everyone should be able to get literally anything they want if they work. like the libertarian fantasy of no government needed because ill just do my thing on my homestead and you do yours, ignoring that there are now 8 billion people on the planet and how the industrial revolution has made it so no one lives in a bubble