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submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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~ Code Crafters Cafe ~

We intend to save human intelligence, to preserve the ability to write code with our own hands and our own brains. Join us now on #codecrafters channel at libera.chat or discord: https://discord.gg/W7CMehj6dd

~ A cozy place in the jungle of the techno world for all programmers who like to create high-quality and effective code from scratch with their own hands. Hobbyists, professionals, beginners, and just curious about how things really work. Handmade, free and open-source software written with a love for engineering and deep knowledge is code crafting. ~

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Uh..."from scratch"? No thanks. I'm a big fan of GCC, and don't intend to learn to code without it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I always had the idea in mind to one day code something in #C for the #C64. There's #cc65 offering a decent compiler. I always ended up with using #assembler again. That's because on that platform, it is the only way to have "full control": The OS only offers a machine code ABI (jump to routines, pass stuff in registers) and misses lots of things, so you need to program the hardware directly. Of course, I still use an assembler instead of hacking the bytes of the machine code directly.

Any Unix and similar OS comes with a C compiler, and even other systems offer a C API, so for a "modern" environment, that's the natural language to use for that "full control". And remember, C is your "portable assembler". 😏

In a nutshell, if you take "from scratch" literally, it would mean to somehow hack bytes into the machine's memory. That doesn't make much sense. I understand it as "use a simple programming language and avoid these huge frameworks and similar doing deep magical stuff for you".

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t mind me, I’m just picking the very best grains of sand to make my own silicon, like a real programmer (xkcd).

[–] Womble 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine not creating your own universe and going through nucleosysnthesis to create your own silicon. People these days have no sense of craft...