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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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It was always about the oil (consciousnessofsheep.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm not completely able to make sense of what this is saying, but consciousnessofsheep.co.uk looks, in general, like misinformation to me. The only articles I've seen from them all tend to point to the idea that all this green energy stuff is a disaster, and the UK should be getting back to basics, burning fossil fuels, and in particular burning fossil fuels that they're buying from Russia.

There's a little bit of that in this article, when they touch on BRICS early on and discuss the real economy being the oil economy and everything else as fake. Mostly, like I said, I can't make sense of it. But I think posting things from this source is something that should be avoided in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You're definitely misunderstanding the author. There is no going back to BAU since it's over, and neither are renewable energy sources capable of sustaining an advanced technological society the fruit of which we're currently still (your mileage might vary) enjoying. For multiple reasons UK is a particularly interesting, albeit depressing, collapse case study. The other Tim (Morgan https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/ ) is currently working on a SEEDS report for UK, which should turn out quite interesting. I'll be sure to post it here.

In general, I think I have a pretty good picture of what is going on, though my expectation that everybody can synthesize their own sense from the submissions here is perhaps unwarranted. Still, don't give up on Tim Watkins just yet. He really isn't saying what you think he's saying.

[–] TokenBoomer -1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for countering the misinformation, I’ve become too cynical to fight back effectively.

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