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[–] RizzRustbolt 66 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Every smart person told them, "update the grids before adding solar."

But did they listen? No. Because updating the grids was an expensive and difficult endeavour and they just wanted to lower their costs first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Which is so odd to me, because electricity just a couple states over is about 1/3 the cost vs CA. I pay $0.12/kWh in UT, whereas CA pays more like $0.32/kWh.

If we look at solar generation, we're doing pretty well here in Utah vs other states in the US (source). Taking a rough average of that data, here's what the numbers look like:

  • California - 8500 MWh, or ~217 MWh per million people
  • Utah - 650 MWh, or ~203 MWh per million people
  • Texas - 4800 MWh, or about 160 MWh per million people
  • Arizona - 1700 MWh, or about 242 MWh per million people

I just don't understand why California electricity prices are so high. It's not like they're generating a ton more than other states in the area or anything.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the figures, but the source I quoted didn't say anything about per-capita production, so I think it's total for the state.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

California's energy regulator is fully captured by the private companies that "operate" the actual grid companies. Every time someone brings up prices the regulatory board agrees to raise them and let the owners walk away with the extra profit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And from my understanding, after PG&E was held liable for their electrical lines causing deadly wildfires, they jacked the rates up even higher to cover the settlement costs.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Our energy provider is private too, though they need to ask the legislature to approve a rate hike.

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