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Vietnam’s High People’s Court upheld the death sentence for real estate tycoon Truong My Lan, convicted of embezzlement and bribery in a record $12 billion fraud case.

Lan can avoid execution by returning $9 billion (three-quarters of the stolen funds), potentially reducing her sentence to life imprisonment.

Her crimes caused widespread economic harm, including a bank run and $24 billion in government intervention to stabilize the financial system.

Lan has admitted guilt but prosecutors deemed her actions unprecedentedly damaging. She retains limited legal recourse through retrial procedures.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Revolutions aren't pillow fights.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is not a revolution. It's the state killing a person. The death penalty is ALWAYS unacceptable, without expections. Do I want billionares to die? Hell yes! Do I think the state should have the power to kill people? Hell no!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So you are a more hands on type. You are fine with the killing if it's you as a a worker class pulling the trigger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

They didn't say that. I think it's pretty clear what they mean. The state has a monopoly on violence. They are permitted a certain amount of force in order to keep the peace. When a government misuses that power, or oversteps to the point of deciding who gets to live or die, then it's gone too far.

If you can't understand the difference between a regular worker being possibly oppressed by this misuse of force, and the state apparatus itself, then I really don't know what to tell you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I understand that the state has a monopoly on violence. Violence IS the ultimate power to rule no matter the form of government. What you don't understand is you can't limit that power. Once granted, even on what might appear to be a limited basis, and it's never limited for long, cannot be revoked. You can totally remove the power of the government to use violence and then hand that power to the populace-- but this is not a good idea. The only thing dumber than the government is the public.

The person I responded to stated plainly, they were for killing billionaires. They just didn't want the government to do it. So he must be willing to pull the trigger himself. Which is a valid political stance. Even though I think it's very misguided.

You have read into a plain statement something YOU believe. And if you don't understand that, then I don't know what to tell you either.

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 17 hours ago

True, but they’re demands of a better world. There’s a difference between killing in a revolution and a 60 year old communist government executing an embezzler instead of giving her life in prison

[–] NateNate60 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The state ending someone's life for breaking its laws and then having people here who would normally condemn the use of capital punishment compare it to a revolution and call it justified just because the state in question claims to be socialist is just so uniquely Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

is just so uniquely Lemmy.

Lol read a fucking book, if the left has been consistent about one thing throughout history, is constant infighting and bickering.

Nothing you've said is unique to Lemmy. Except maybe the part about making uninformed comments with extreme confidence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

That's consistent across all social media!