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I don't want to be some white collar stiff. I don't want to work in a place with ties. I don't want to be a tie guy. I don't wear them to weddings, because that's not me.

Nothing against tie people. It's just not me.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I tried to get into ties. I bought myself a few nice ones, and coordinated them with my outfits. It was, briefly, glorious.

Then the idiots in charge started to treat me like I was one of them. They started to hold my opinions on the same level as their own.

I never said, "No, Bob, we don't both have valuable inputs in this nuanced technical topic. I have decades of deeply technical experience and you have a fine arts degree and took four seminars on interpersonal skills."

But I did stop wearing ties.

I'm a fan of fine arts degrees and those interpersonal seminars, but neither one (alone) will keep a fragile web service running safely.

Now I show up to those meetings noticeably underdressed, and everyone in the room assumes "oh shit, this person must know their shit, it certainly wasn't their fashion that got them into this room".

It irritates me that it works.

[–] foofiepie 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I started in the tech world in a suit and tie as a dev for a blue chip.

As I’ve (begrudgingly) progressed up the shitty ladder, my smart casual has become more casual.

I can’t remember the last time I wore a tie to work.

Not even to an interview.

Maybe there’s some truth in this.