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Volodymyr Zelenskyy has suggested a ceasefire deal could be struck if Ukrainian territory he controls could be taken "under the NATO umbrella" - allowing him to negotiate the return of the rest later "in a diplomatic way".

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This possible agreement was already on the table two years ago when Boris Johnson convinced him to keep on with the war. And of course Putin is the one invading. But that agreement means everyone that has died in the last two years has died for nothing. Or even worse, because Russia is controlling even more territory than two years ago.

But it seems Zelenski can't make mistakes and NATO is always looking for the common good and human rights, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They died because Putin is a fascist.

End story.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

End of YOUR story. But the fact is that Boris Johnson derailed an agreement that was almost this one. And signing a shitty agreement before the death of thousands vs signing the same agreement AFTER the death of thousands of your citizens is not the same.

Ukraine has just been a pawn in NATOs hands to make Russia bleed. If NATO had send all the help they send now from the beginning, there was a chance that Putin had turn around and left. But the target wasn't that but keep the war active. NATO had done the same thing fishermen do to make Russia stay in Ukraine.

And the ones suffering have been the people of Ukraine (civilians and military) and the soldiers from Russia (I have the hunch that most didn't wanted to go there).

I hate that those bastards don't put on a pair of boxing gloves and decide the war in a ring but send thousands of people to die for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't insulted you. And the insult is the last resort when you don't have anything to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Ok buddy fascist.