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F1 is not the only motorsport in the world, so go ahead and post your shitposts about WEC or MotoGP or IndyCar or ralley or Polish Speedway or whatever. Even Formula E, I guess. It needs some love, too.

By the way, F2 > F1.

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[–] Vinny_93 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't wait to hear anyone who agrees with the stop/go to explain why this wasn't a time penalty.

And I think the penalty for speeding in the pit lane is usually 5 seconds.

If it's just gonna be a wheel of fortune any time someone does something wrong, it really brings the credibility of the sport into question.

It feels like this was an orchestration to make the next race more interesting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently the penalty for speeding in the pit lane increases based on how much over the limit you're going, and apparently the stop/go is the suggested penalty for ignoring double waved yellows (this is what I remember from watching Sky's post-race analysis)

[–] Vinny_93 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Could be me but I didn't see any double yellows for that mirror. If they would have just cleared the mirror away under vsc or sc straight away all of this could have been prevented.

I also heard the Lewis thing was because the SC drove through the pits making speeding a bigger offence. Makes sense, sort of.

[–] woelkchen 3 points 2 weeks ago

Could be me but I didn’t see any double yellows for that mirror.

Neither did Norris but they were there. Everyone else saw them and slowed down accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They didn't show the double waved yellows on the live feed which is why everyone was confused

[–] woelkchen -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I think the penalty for speeding in the pit lane is usually 5 seconds.

Usually it doesn't involve following the safety car through the pit lane because the start/finish straight usually is not closed.

[–] essteeyou 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If anything I think that causes confusion.

I can certainly imagine myself thinking "we're behind the safety car, surely we're not speeding through the pits"

[–] woelkchen 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can certainly imagine myself thinking “we’re behind the safety car, surely we’re not speeding through the pits”

You mean when on radio the race engineer said that the speed limiter button was pressed too late, affirming that the button had to be pressed in time?

[–] essteeyou 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm saying that before any radio messages occurred, I might be entering the pits, behind the safety car, assuming that I'm not going to be speeding, and therefore may not think to press the speed limiter button.

By the time someone tells me it was too late it's already too late.

Imagine you're following a police officer on a road, they're slowing down traffic for some problem up ahead, and then they pull you over for speeding.

[–] woelkchen -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m saying that before any radio messages occurred, I might be entering the pits, behind the safety car, assuming that I’m not going to be speeding, and therefore may not think to press the speed limiter button.

By the time someone tells me it was too late it’s already too late.

The replay I saw clearly had no time for a relaxed radio message. He was a second or so too late. Unforced error by him and neither he nor the team complained.

Imagine you’re following a police officer on a road, they’re slowing down traffic for some problem up ahead, and then they pull you over for speeding.

Pit lane has the speed limiter button. Always. No exceptions. Why are you trying to argue this?

[–] essteeyou 0 points 2 weeks ago

At no point have I suggested that the pit limiter shouldn't be used. I'm simply stating, over and over again, that a change in circumstances can make a person forget a procedure. Following a safety car might just be the kind of thing that makes you forget, or feel like the usual procedure doesn't need to be followed.

There's no real argument against what I'm saying. Humans are fallible, we make mistakes in unusual circumstances.