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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I really do get the sentiment, but I also think about my grandparents who grew up during the great depression and then fought WWII, or really all the incredibly shitty times to be alive throughout history

[–] frunch 7 points 1 week ago

Where has all that gotten us though? In the interim we've made the world less habitable yet more expensive to live in. I don't want to raise kids just to watch them struggle to make ends meet (as I also struggle to make ends meet)

[–] Zron 7 points 1 week ago

And there were birth rate dips during those times. WWII only caused a baby boom because it ended and all those soldiers came back horny as hell.

The Great Depression caused a massive drop in Birth rates that took years to recover from, and WWII saw big fluctuations in birth rates until it was over.

This hesitation is normal, people don’t want to have kids when the future is uncertain.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's with the whataboutism? Just because our ancestors acted imorrally doesn't make it OK to do the same

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putting current events in historical context is not even remotely "whataboutism." And it sounds like you're saying your ancestors acted immorally for having children, which may be arguable...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

And it sounds like you're saying your ancestors acted immorally for having children

I'm saying they acted immorally if they willingly conceived a child during a World War or the great depression