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[–] ChonkyOwlbear 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think the Democratic candidate mattered at all. Trump is a psychopath. Any sane adult should have beaten him. Harris wasn't any different than Biden and he beat Trump. Something else happened. Misinformation, foreign interference, and disenfranchisement lost the election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree, but I also think the Democrats could have run a candidate that did matter. Harris was just another useless establishment clone.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they had done that, they would have lost just the same and people would be complaining that they didn't run someone more mainstream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a pretty pathetic attitude.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sometimes you're going to lose no matter what you do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes. Not this time. Harris didn't come within a thousand miles of running a campaign that would support that.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've yet to hear any name that can be convincingly argued to have been able to beat Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why you have real primaries. I'd bet Wallz could have won at the top of the ticket. Any Democrat with a scrap of charisma and an anti-establishment vibe could have done it. It was Harris's ties to Biden that did her in more than anything else.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you watch the VP debate? Walz could never have pulled it off. Nobody could have, short of maybe someone like John Stewart. The people wanted lies, not the truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think Walz in a Walz campaign and Walz in a Harris campaign are two very different things. Walz in that debate was playing the message discipline game and pulling his punches because of it

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago

Any campaign needs message discipline. Even Trump has it in his own way.

[–] DougHolland 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sometimes you’re going to lose no matter what you do.

Are you saying Donald Trump was unbeatable in 2024? Nothing Dems did would've mattered?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No candidate would have mattered once Biden stayed in as long as he did.

[–] DougHolland 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably.

I always believe that a candidate of the genuine left, pushing things most people want and need — universal health care, breaking up giant corporations, enthusiastic tax increases for billionaires, complete medical and student debt forgiveness, patching the pathetic safety net that barely exists for the unemployed, the sick, the disabled, etc— would win by two touchdowns. But I don't know who that candidate would've been in 2024, and the question is moot because Democrats would never nominate a leftist.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 week ago

As great as that candidate would be, they wouldn't accomplish any of that. We need to move the house and senate to the left before any president like that would actually make a difference.