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[–] mangaskahn 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Accession to NATO usually requires border disputes to be resolved. Last I knew Canada, the US and Turkey were also standing in the way.

[–] MutilationWave 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hungary as well. Not to downplay US and Canada bullshit, but Hungary and Turkey, being quasi autocracies themselves, have really been fucking up attempts to make countries safer from Russian aggression.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd happily trade out Hungary and turkey for Ukraine, any day. Ukraine actually wants a better country for its citizens, those other two just want more power for their dictators

[–] MutilationWave 2 points 4 days ago

Agreed. But I don't want the people of Hungary to be left out in the cold to future Russian aggression. They know better than to fuck with Turkey. But without either sharing a border with Russia, war is unlikely.

I think the solution is to change the rules on voting. NATO (and the EU for that matter) has too many members to keep going on the universal acceptance thing. The governments of Hungary and Turkey are going fascist. More countries could in the future with the worldwide rise of fascism.

I'm so tired of reading about Turkey or Hungary holding up something good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

That rule is not an official rule and does not exist in NATO's treaty. It is a guideline set by the Obama administration to appease Putin.

Those countries need to realize that they need to let Ukraine into NATO if they want the war to end, and for Ukraine to not consider building nuclear weapons for their defense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

From https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/10/31/canadian-foreign-minister-joly-says-canada-backs-ukraines-path-to-nato-membership/

Canada supports extending an invitation to Ukraine to join NATO and ultimately granting it full membership, Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly said in Montreal, according to Ukrinform.

Not sure why this guy said Canada is standing in the way of membership.