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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] thedirtyknapkin 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

my defeatism comes from the politics around climate change.

so we're on track to avoid the apocalypse under current policy, too bad there's a global shift to right wing authoritarianism happening around the world at the worst time possible for the environment. so many countries are walking back on climate policy and agreements. just like good IT security, when it's working right no one will notice the good it's doing, so many just see it as waste. or worse, they only see the burden it imposes on them.

I'm partially convinced that it's just human nature to forget why we prevent things every 3 generations or so. i think it's only a matter of time now that we have the technology to actually destroy the world. we have to be able to prevent it every time, but they only need to succeed once. it's going to be nearly impossible to create effective climate policy for a quite a while if trump kills the epa like he wants.