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"Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Soldiers from North Korea are standing in front of Ukraine. Let's be honest. Already in Ukraine, the Iranian 'Shahedis' are killing civilians absolutely openly, without any shame," said Zaluzhny, adding that North Korean and Chinese weapons are flying into Ukraine. Zaluzhny urged Ukraine's allies to draw the right conclusions. "It is still possible to stop it here, on the territory of Ukraine. But for some reason our partners do not want to understand this. It is obvious that Ukraine already has too many enemies. Ukraine will survive with technology, but it is not clear whether it can win this battle alone," he said.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Here's some food for thought. If we turned the tables and Canada was being invaded by the US, and Putin said he could call Trump and stop the invasion so long as whatever territories Trump took stay American, I would rather suicide bomb a crowd of Americans than accept defeat. I imagine the Ukrainians feel the same way. I can't imagine that changing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

Let's say Canada removed French language rights, and Quebec demanded autonomy or independence as a democratic process. If US sided with Quebec while Russia armed Canada, and just denied without evidence/reality that Quebec's democratic will could be valid. If the situation progresses such that the US liberates Quebec, and Quebec chooses to join US, does an end of the war have to revert to Canadian control of Quebec?

If you go back to the start of the conflict, the removal of French language rights was an aggressive and unwelcoming act on the part of Canada. As was the refusal of autonomy or independence reaction to the instigation. The motives for the new hostility should be questioned including foreign power interference to create instability.

I would rather suicide bomb a crowd of Americans than accept defeat.

You would have already supported the side that hates Quebec. A perfectly sane response to hate is for you to be happy they are kicked out of your country. The less sane response is that those you hate can only be under the fascist control of your ruler, and you are volunteering to rabidly fulfill that fascism.