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how did that work out for Obama? he capitulated and capitulated, and removed progressive options from the table just to get them to sit on it, and negotiated with himself on their behalf, compromised on his compromises. what happened? radical Marxist. lol.
you think she's suddenly going to be accepted because she basically agrees she's kind of a man, a little bit, actually? no.
nah democrats just don't have a spine. and that is a really bad thing to lack when the things the other side lacks are shame and honesty.
You're conflating Democrats generally with "firsts". This is something you can find all the way back to women entering the metal work space in World War 2. It's about proving that you're not actually special, you're just a normal person whose capable of doing the job without special accommodations.
no. rashida tlaib is the first Palestinian American woman in congress. it would be fucked up if she never raised any concerns on Israel's genocidal government just because she doesn't want to rustle any feathers.
no, it is about democrats, not firsts. weird how democrats always have to seem normal when republicans go fucking weirder by the minute.
I didn't say it was good pressure. Rashida Tlaib also catches no end of shit for her positions, as moral as they are. McBride is doing what she thinks is best for her job and for her voters. I highly suspect she's right too because she represents Delaware. If she makes herself the story they will not vote for her again. They want a legislator who happens to be trans, not a trans person who happens to be a legislator. Rashida Tlaib represents a district that wants a progressive over anything else.
if her constituents will not vote for her for standing up for herself against bigoted and targeted attacks then they shouldn't. also if getting reelected takes precedence over having principles I would hope you wouldn't anyway.
it's one thing to be practical and pick your fights. but if the fight is literally brought to you, personally... fucking fight back.
the fact that rashida tlaib catches no end of shit is my point, because that does not mean she should give up on her principles. and more importantly, she'd still be targeted if she did. that's what republicans do. funnily enough though she gets censured by her own party for being anti-genocide. because that's what democrats do.
I'm sure there were trans people who voted for McBride who might be a little displeased about how easily she's rolling over here, as well.
And even if we take that, she's uncomfortable rocking the boat, okay, whatever. What of her colleagues? No one except AOC is even a little bit miffed about this? Do democrats not stand together?
as i said, no. rashida tlaib was censured by democrats. capitulation and submission is what they do.
You're absolutely right.
The right move would be to make a big show of this, point out the absurdity, rightfully point out that you're being accused of being a rapist without proof, and give a speech where you point out that you just need to pee.
The Right isn't going to say "Oh, so you agree you're a man. Maybe you aren't a man, pee wherever, on my face if you want!"
They're going to say "Glad you know your place [Insert Transphobic Slur Here] now if we can get the rest of your putrid kind to get the memo."
By giving up this fight, she's well on her way to go as far in her career as Ernst Rohm did in his.
Don't know who that is? One of Hitler's closest allies, a commanding officer of the Nazis, a leading member of the Nazi Party, on a first name basis with Adolf himself...
He was also a homosexual who agreed with carting the [Insert Homophobic Slur Here]s off to camp even though he was openly gay because "Me and Hitler are bros, he's not going to....."
We'll never know how that sentence ended because they put the chloroform over his face and then he found himself waking up in line for the gas chamber.