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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

This may get downdooted to oblivion, but I think some of this is human nature. It is abhorrent, and something we need to strive to fix, but it is rather natural for people to think that their own situation is typical -- because for them, it is. Every exemplar that a privileged person will have is also a privileged exemplar -- until, of course, something like this happens.

And as a further consequence, it is extremely difficult to convince someone that their personal situation is not the norm. Everyone wants to be the main character and ultimately believes that they are.

Not sure what the solution is.

[–] madeinthebackseat 14 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Provide testing for logic, critical thinking, and empathy in order to vote?

Stop making excuses for stupid people that hold back the progress of mankind?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, I'm not trying to make excuses. Though I can appreciate that it looks like that.

But how do we restrict the stupid people? If we agree that every human gets to take part, then it follows that the stupid will be voting.

I don't think a litmus test is the answer, since they are extremely easy to misuse. Why not say only landowners should vote? How about only veterans? It's a dangerous path.

[–] VoilaChihuahua 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a dangerous path, but does that mean we shouldn't consider it? Like when you vote you have to correctly identify your candidate's policies. Or you have to answer some moral question like "rich people are rich because they are in some way inherently better". Or if you vote anti choice you're informed "selecting this candidate waives all natal care that may end your fetus' life including termination of an unviable fetus to save your life, sign your name if you waive your medical rights" if they refuse to sign - your vote don't count. But a lot of folks are too dumb to get a say in this shit right now. I think the dumbing down of America is 100% orchestrated and intentional, but we need to fix our dumbness for a few generations and get a good level set of "not being a fucking dipshit" before we can trust the random person on the street has more common sense than a bag of mismatched socks.

[–] T156 3 points 3 weeks ago

Or if you vote anti choice you're informed "selecting this candidate waives all natal care that may end your fetus' life including termination of an unviable fetus to save your life, sign your name if you waive your medical rights" if they refuse to sign - your vote don't count.

Even then, that may not work, since people are inclined to think "that's basically an impossibility, or would only happen if you're under the influence, or old, it could never happen to me".

I should be surprised if Farmer expected that she would need abortion care when she voted against it. She likely only realised she would when she found out her pregnancy was non-viable, and tried to get abortion care

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