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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

Hour. Just a weird way to say 12:00 and 15:00 or 3pm and whatever 12:00 is in am/pm talk

[–] samus12345 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. But most people just say "noon" or "midnight" because it's less confusing.

[–] toynbee 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That is confusing. "PM" is "post meridian" or, as I understand it, after the middle. One would think it wouldn't be PM until 12:01 or at least 12:00:01.

Which is why I, as you said, use "noon" and "midnight."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can never remember it properly either but when someone reminds me (thanks samus12345) which way around it is it does kind of make sense.

If you think of 12:00 as literally an infinitesimal slice of time it's not really possible to give it an am/pm distinction, as it is literally the devider between the two. BUT, in a more real-life approach 12:00 is probably not an infinitesimal slice of time but the minute after a digital clock flipped to 12:00. That can be 12:00:00.00004 or 12:00:30 or 12:00:59.999944. And all those are indisputably pm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Couldn't it be 00:00 PM? So zero time since meridian?

[–] toynbee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not a bad suggestion, but may interfere with 24 hour clocks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's why you switch the clocks over to 24 hours

[–] toynbee 1 points 3 weeks ago

I can't tell if you're agreeing or arguing with me.

[–] samus12345 1 points 3 weeks ago

Correct - technically, noon is neither am nor pm, but clocks and the like have to have SOMETHING there, so am for midnight and pm for noon was arbitrarily chosen.

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