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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Ukraine would lose the war if the U.S., its primary military supporter, cuts funding.

Speaking to Fox News, he stressed the importance of unity between the U.S. and Ukraine as Russia accelerates its territorial gains.

Zelensky acknowledged Ukraine’s challenges on the battlefield, despite new U.S. weapon supplies, including long-range missiles and anti-personnel land mines.

He criticized German Chancellor Olaf Scholz for engaging with Putin, calling it a risky move.

Trump has pledged to end the war quickly but offered no specifics.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)
[–] RunningInRVA 71 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Right? Before the election I had a political conversation with a coworker who leans more conservative and she was excited about Trump “making peace with Putin”. It was a serious wtf moment for me. “Peace” with Putin means pulling funding for Ukraine and letting Russia roll over it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I had an argument on here with a supposed green party voter who "hated trump", but admired him for his sincere efforts to end wars.....

I reminded them about ending the nuclear deal with Iran and then assassinating their most idolized military commander. He just went on to admit he didn't care about a war with Iran.

There are so many "green voters" who are just trump supporters turfing as leftist on this site.

[–] Telodzrum 22 points 3 weeks ago

Love the Pax MAGA:

  1. Russia moves west until Putin doesn't need to drum up nationalist fervor back home;

  2. Israel gets all the weapons it needs to control every inch of the Mediterranean coast from the Suez to Turkey;

  3. All US troops out of South Korea and IDK probably an arms sale to the DPRK;

  4. The Seventh Fleet gets permanently reassigned to patrol the California coast as some immigration stunt and to make Pooh happy;

  5. Probably a tactical nuke dropped on Tehran.

Seems awesome, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Can you link to it? Because i havent come across this at all. On the contrary third party voters and advocates are usually doing so because of the fucked up US Middle East meddling, war mongering and genociding. The JCPOA was about the only positive coming out of the US for the region in the past decades, probably the last half of a century.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, was not what he was about.

When he praised trump from pulling out of Afghanistan and Syria, I asked how the people in those countries are doing now, and his reply was he didn't care, he just cares for the people in this country.

[–] Maggoty 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Didn't anyone learn from his "Peace in Afghanistan"? He literally just gave the Taliban everything they wanted and told the Afghans we were leaving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is a bad example. The occupation of Afghanistan went nowhere and well, it eas an occupation fighting the people who actually live there. That is completely opposite to Ukraine wanting to get rid of their Russian occupiers.

[–] Maggoty 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah sure, "the people" who actually supported the Republic when polled. The people of Afghanistan never got a say. Trump told the ANG that he was leaving them and all of the governors and tribal leaders immediately made side deals with the Taliban. When the Taliban attacked those leaders told all the government's most fervent supporters to go fight. And then left them cut off and surrounded to be killed.

That's the kind of deal Trump wants to make with Russia. Russia gets everything they wanted and Ukraine has to deal with it. You can also check out the Trump family deal for peace in the middle east that was essentially getting the Arab world to accept Israel and cut off support for Palestinians.

He doesn't make actual peace deals. He just gives autocrats what they want and claims it's peace.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I grew up during the cold war. The idea that Republicans (after spending decades calling people left of them "pinko commies" - it was their cold war version of complaining about people being "woke") are the party that sees nothing wrong with Putin now is part of what has convinced me that Trump has somehow made them lose their minds.

I absofuckinglutely guarantee that there are crusty old white guys who were wearing "better dead than red" tshirts all through the 80s who are somehow now cheerleading for Trump being in bed with Putin.

[–] grue 1 points 3 weeks ago

Did you call them out on it?

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