I guess, but also it doesn't really change anything at this point. We can't allow nuclear threats to be some Carte blanche that can be used to get your way. We need to resist and make clear that Russia has nothing to win in Ukraine. The opposite would be the true escalation and actors like China, North korea, Iran etc. would instantly try to copy this strategy. If Putin wants to pull the trigger that is on him only and either way I'd much rather we put a stop to it now before this idea of going nuclear establishes any further.

[–] Dasus 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree.

It can't just be them yelling "we got nukes" and getting what they want.

But they do have then, and they're insane, and that worries me a bit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This whole thing is worrying, but the rational reaction still is to double down and blow up another command center with even longer range and even bigger missiles. Deterrance is the only option at this point. Giving in would be way more worrying.

[–] Dasus 1 points 2 days ago

Oh definitely, I agree. I would never advocate for Ukraine stopping.

Just. Fucking crazy world leaders.