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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago

Well, I imagine whatever they fired at will blow up. Then that's pretty much it until they fire the next one. Rinse, repeat, Putin get the fuck out of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think permission is getting revoked Jan 20 so use it while you still can.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean.....the whole reason to care about permission was so they could get further future support. They aren't getting that. If on Jan 21st they discover this whole other set of rockets they recieved from the USA in the past, and forgot about, why NOT use them??? Oh, they don't have USA's support. Ok, what's going to happen if they use them on Jan 21st? They'll endanger their non-existant support? Ok. FIRE!!!

[–] Kyrgizion 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

UA needs US and/or EU satellite controls in order to carry out the long range strikes. If permission is revoked, they can't simply pick up their ball and go home to play.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

and/or EU

I can't see the EU revoking access to Galileo just because Trump says so.

[–] skeezix -5 points 3 days ago

You mean that?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

keeps firing rockets

WHAT'S THAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF THESE KICKASS ROCKETS WE ARE SENDING INTO RUSSIA. ALSO, TELL JOE THANKS FOR THEM BECAUSE WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE THEM. NOW WE ARE MAKING OUR OWN. COOL YEAH?

[–] kikutwo 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now we fire a few thousand more.

[–] Valmond 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't Biden shoveling the equivalent of $1BN/week towards the army shop?

That'd be a while weeks worth of funding. I mean per thousand rockets...

[–] kikutwo -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's funny how we can't afford to shore up the SS and Medicare trust funds though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

We can absolutely afford to shore up the SS and Medicare trust funds. We just don't. American oligarchs just prefer that workers are dependent on jobs until they fall over and die. Just raise the cap, and it's fixed.

[–] Valmond 2 points 2 days ago

It's rockets that woukd be decommissioned anyways or so I have understood.

For your other argument, it could be said about any spending.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

No satellite photos of the ammo depot they targeted yet, so we'll have to see whether they were successful...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Put one in Putin's pooter.

[–] Dasus 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now let's hope Putin isn't desperate enough to go nuclear. Tactical or MAD, either or.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess, but also it doesn't really change anything at this point. We can't allow nuclear threats to be some Carte blanche that can be used to get your way. We need to resist and make clear that Russia has nothing to win in Ukraine. The opposite would be the true escalation and actors like China, North korea, Iran etc. would instantly try to copy this strategy. If Putin wants to pull the trigger that is on him only and either way I'd much rather we put a stop to it now before this idea of going nuclear establishes any further.

[–] Dasus 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree.

It can't just be them yelling "we got nukes" and getting what they want.

But they do have then, and they're insane, and that worries me a bit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This whole thing is worrying, but the rational reaction still is to double down and blow up another command center with even longer range and even bigger missiles. Deterrance is the only option at this point. Giving in would be way more worrying.

[–] Dasus 1 points 2 days ago

Oh definitely, I agree. I would never advocate for Ukraine stopping.

Just. Fucking crazy world leaders.