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For the first time, the elimination of a cancer is within our reach (www.telegraph.co.uk)

submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/health

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

He read it as "elimination of cancer" first, read only the headline and then got really upset without reading the article because cancer is not just one thing (true!), and has now noticed, and for some reason edited it to retcon into getting equally mad claiming "a cancer is not just one thing," which is total nonsense, but superior I guess to just admitting he made a mistake.

HPV causes ~~99%~~ 95% of cases of cervical cancer. The article is mostly talking about outreach to the third world sharing things like HPV vaccines and saving hundreds of thousands of lives. The guy's just yelling and being wrong. And, of course, some other lemmy.world yelling idiots are upvoting him, because they love yelling and being wrong. Just ignore him.

After this and a group of people from lemmy.world who got really mad earlier today about a "paywalled" article I posted that didn't, in fact, have a paywall, I think I may defederate my systems from lemmy.world. It's honestly just too dumb an environment to produce useful comments. PugJesus and [email protected] and the cat pictures are the only good things on it at this point, I think.

Edit: It was more than one person who got mad about the "paywall," I think it was at least 8 people.

Edit: I don’t know where I got 99%, the WHO says 95%.

[–] RedditWanderer -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

All this relies on retcon, which makes no sense. Easy to just say it in your corner though. I did read the article, but that doesn't fit your narrative. You also had to add that i'm "mad" so it spins your way, when it's others having to attack me direcly instead of making points. Nothing about my comment implies i'm mad except you spinning it that way.

Youre defending people who are saying the article says 94% of these can be avoided, when the article says 94% of cancers occur in those countries.please

Edit: *94% of cancer deaths, wouldn't wanna "retcon my whole argument". This is a bad title for a different problem. We haven't even started with it "being the first time". Youre trying to convince us other people are mad too, go figure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

95% of cervical cancer is caused by HPV.

Source: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cervical-cancer

I thought the WHO said 99%, since numbers are different depending on which you ask, but this says 95%. Screening and treatment, which are also included in the article you’re claiming to have read, will very effectively prevent harm from the other 5%. Thus eliminating it as a public health problem. It’s a great thing, and here you are in the comments INSISTING that other people need to absorb your misunderstandings of the situation and I guess view it NOT as a good thing, or something.

Youre defending people who are saying the article says 94% of these can be avoided, when the article says 94% of cancers occur in those countries.

I don’t even know why I’m in this conversation. These are not mutually incompatible statements. 94% of the problem exists in the third world, and 95% of cervical cancer is caused by HPV. I don’t know why you are saying that the first statement somehow DISproves the second. They’re both true. Multiple statements can be true, even if they involve similar percentages.

That is, in fact, such a weird type of misunderstanding for you to be so confident about that I feel comfortable just ending the conversation here. Think, read the sources, learn. Or don’t. I don’t care.

[–] RedditWanderer -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

See youre conflating 2 things again, assuming everyone's mad probably.

All those stats are correct, so how could it possibly be that I would say such lies? I must be wrong, how weird.

You're forgetting there are other people in this thread, and someone did misquote it in their argument. Talk about retcon, which you spend 0 minutes explaining but made up half your earlier argument.

The numbers aren't even important. This is not a first time cancer breakthrough, this is a HPV awareness article with a sensationalized title. Nobody was arguing the numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I’m not really upset with you, maybe I shouldn’t come out with such a negative demeanor and make you defensive. On the other hand, you started it, with your first dismissive comment about the whole article. I just wanted to post about public health in the third world and something good going on, and you seem like you’re really hell-bent on proving that there must be someone who’s really wrong here, other than you.

I am done. If it was all a misunderstanding then sure. Like I say, I just mostly don’t care at this point.