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An open, user owned community for the general disscussion of the libertarian philosophy.
- Libertarianism is the belief that each person has the right to live his life as he chooses so long as he respects the equal rights of others.
- Libertarians defend each person’s right to life, liberty, and property.
- In the libertarian view, voluntary agreement is the gold standard of human relationships.
- If there is no good reason to forbid something (a good reason being that it violates the rights of others), it should be allowed.
- Force should be reserved for prohibiting or punishing those who themselves use force.
Most people live their own lives by that code of ethics. Libertarians believe that that code should be applied consistently, even to the actions of governments, which should be restricted to protecting people from violations of their rights. Governments should not use their powers to censor speech, conscript the young, prohibit voluntary exchanges, steal or “redistribute” property, or interfere in the lives of individuals who are otherwise minding their own business.
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I don't think it should be abolished, people should have the chance to be the only ones making money of off their original idea/design/whatever. IMO those rights need to be stripped down a lot:
The only thing I wouldn't change significantly is trademark, it's IMO reasonable to forbid others using your name (or other trademark) to pretend they're you.
I agree, it's the perpetual copyright that is really harmful. I like the idea of it lasting one generation, around 20 years. Another idea is that all IP has to be declared and maintained over time for some nominal fee. This would allow a lot more unused IP to enter the public domain simply because nobody bothers to keep renewing it at a certain point.
Nice take! Could you explain to me where you drew this line? I always try to imagine why a line can be drawn right there or why not. According to my argumentation, this boundary lies with things that can be controlled and that are limited as objects. So if I pass on a gold bar then you have control over it but I no longer do. Thoughts and ideas would be something else. I can keep my idea undiminished whether someone copies it or not. Nor can I control who can own this idea or how someone uses it.
Do you have a similar train of thought for your border concept?
It's quite simple, if you come up with something popular, there are corporations that would happily copy it to get the money for themselves and you're left with nothing, And if people feel like their idea can't make them money because someone richer will steal it, they'll stop having ideas.
At the same time I don't think you should be able to hold copyright etc. for a hundred years like it is now, that's just disgusting.
The rest of my previous comment I think has clear reasoning, if not, feel free to ask.
You could copy the product but you don't know how is built so you will end up with an identical but more expensive product. The is a youtuber that made a chicken sandwich from scratch and end up costing 1500$ and 6 months. Efficiency it's important for businesses.
The company that creates the product also has another advantage and that is to be the first to enter the market, so they are not going to be left with nothing.
In that scenario the biggest advances will be in production efficiency, because even if your competitors can copy you they will not be able to sell cheaper than you.
Someone could make your first idea more efficient, but that's good for your second idea because it proves you're good and more people will be willing to work with you.
I got you. I phrased my question too vaguely. I understand why you want to do this, but how do you justify setting the limit right here? There must be a logical separation, as in my example, between limited and controllable items and those that are not. How exactly do you arrive at this number of years? Are these requirements that you set out in your first post conclusive? Is there anything else missing?