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NATO’s Military Committee head, Admiral Rob Bauer, stated that NATO troops would likely be in Ukraine countering Russian forces if Russia lacked nuclear weapons.

Speaking at the IISS Prague Defence Summit, Bauer emphasized that Russia’s nuclear arsenal deters direct NATO involvement, contrasting Ukraine’s situation with past NATO interventions in non-nuclear states like Afghanistan.

Although NATO nations provide military aid to Ukraine, direct troop deployment has been avoided, with leaders like U.S. President Biden ruling it out due to nuclear escalation risks highlighted by Russian threats and rhetoric.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If nukes are an excuse to prevent all conventional intervention, then nukes are a free pass to commit any crimes one wishes against non-nuclear powers.

Well... yeah.

[–] PugJesus 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The easy solution is to show that nukes are not protection against all conventional intervention. We should have given Zelenskyy a no-fly zone back when he asked for one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] PugJesus 6 points 4 days ago

Easy as in simple, not easy as in likely or without cost.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Step 1: Put boots on Russian territory

Step 2: (nuclear) Winter is coming

Step 3: 💥 ~~profit~~ 💥

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nobody’s saying NATO should invade Russia.

We’re saying NATO could EASILY establish IADS over the vast majority of Ukraine to defend their civilian population and infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Put up proof that you know this would happen, or stop fear-mongering.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

But they are. Its been settled decades ago.