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[–] RedditWanderer 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Like not tipping is going to abolish anything. You walk in, pay the owner and leave the worker hanging. Why would the owner care?

It's not like all the waiters can stay home waiting for something to change, people gotta live. Stop going to restaurants if you don't want to tip

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you hate me for not wanting to tip, and not the employer who does not want to pay a living wage to it's worker because the law does not oblige him to.

Why do you blame me and not the government who regulated the law to allow rich people to become more rich by having part of their salary expenses covered by the public?

This is a perfect example of privatizing the profits and socializing the losses

[–] Sarmyth 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, that's not the actual alternative for the waiter. The waiter either accepts their income as it is with some people not providing a tip, or they can opt for other employment like the rest of the workforce that isn't tipped. They don't have to sit at home waiting for things to change like helpless puppies.

I'm in California though so we don't have any of that wage fuckery where they can be paid less than minimum wage if tips make up a significant portion of their income. It's $17.55 hour minimum plus tips where I'm at.

I'd really rather see tipping outlawed along with all other obscured fees and just pay what you need to pay to have waiters and charge what you need to charge to have a business transparently printed on the menu.

[–] RedditWanderer 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Ahh yes other employment! How come nobody ever thought of that... Just get another job of course. Taxi driver don't like their wage? Why dont they change jobs. Improper ppe? Just quit. Minimum wage at mcdonalds not livable? Change jobs bro. Bad / dangerous working conditions? You know it... Change jobs! Why do we even bother with oversight like OSHA when all construction workers need is to change jobs when things arent properly done. Contractors will figure it out eventually! California should do away with their pesky wage rules,"to be fair" they aren't necessary, workers won't be sitting at home waiting for it.

It's so ridiculous of an answer ill go back to arguing with those who think they shouldn't tip. We'd all prefer to see it outlawed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

It boggles the mind how someone can dismiss the legislation that enables the exact scenario the person they replied to described. Yes, the best solution is to have a reasonable minimum wage that isn't modified by tips. Then you don't have to leave your job, because they have to follow the law.

...or did you not bother reading past the first sentence?