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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 1 day ago (39 children)

Democrats are completely out of touch. them expecting voters putting other issues on top of them making ends meets and food on the table (like mocking Vance's egg prices ), all the while most polls showing the economy is the biggest concern with 38 % of all voters, is just simply delusional

And they have lost both the popular and electoral college vote. meaning the real problem here is them.

And don't get me started on the propaganda of Iowa's early voters polls showing a Kamala landslide just 2 days before election day. If you live in a left wing bubble and believe this shit, than this should be a hard smack back into reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

I was so confused because the voting pattern on this comment is so dramatically different than it was on the comments early on in this exact same discussion here, or in other posts where we've been discussing basically the exact same thing.

Sort the comments on this post by "old" and you'll see what I'm talking about. You won't see everyone claiming that the Democrats did nothing at all for the economy for the last 4 years. It won't be all the other way, either, but you'll see a healthy interplay between a couple of different main points of view. It won't be all one way.

I don't usually come to the big communities on lemmy.world for pretty much this exact same reason, so like I say, I was just confused. I looked back on some of my other comments in other communities, where there's actually a large-scale consensus that yesterday's tragedy was largely the fault of the people who were holding out voting for the Democrats because they hadn't done enough to fix everything up, including for example the economy from the last time the Republicans broke it all.

One thing that I suddenly realized is that some of those comments with that very-different-from-this consensus are on Beehaw, which while it still has representation on it from the socialists and anti-liberals, whatever you want to call it, has defederated from sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world because they were at the time too infested with troll accounts. And I used some of my magic powers to look at who's been voting for this comment with all these universal upvotes...

And lo, I was enlightened.

Edit: Another funny thing happened. The parent comment that this is in reply to was the top comment, 3 hours old, when I made this comment, which was the only reply at that time. Now, in just the last half hour, there are suddenly 7 other comments and replies competing for space at the top of the page, instead of it just being the parent comment and this one as a reply. A lot of those are some variety of "Democrats fucked it" comment.

My guess is that there will be a flurry of continued conversation, and then once things die down, it will all somehow coalesce into there being a few "Democrats fucked it" comments all the way up at the top of the page, with a whole bunch of upvotes, creating a narrative. I'm not sure. But that is how I would guess, if I had to guess.

Edit2: Called it. Look at the default-sorted comments now.

It doesn’t particularly matter. It’s over at this point. But it’s interesting to look at one particular microcosm on one particular platform of one thing that made it happen, I think.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

One thing that I suddenly realized is that some of those comments with that very-different-from-this consensus are on Beehaw, which while it still has representation on it from the socialists and anti-liberals, whatever you want to call it, has defederated from sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world because they were at the time too infested with troll accounts. And I used some of my magic powers to look at who's been voting for *this* comment with all these universal upvotes...

I'm confused, is the implication that Beehaw users are upvoting the comments blaming the Drmocrats? How can they do that if they're defederated?

Actually I didn't really understand your entire comment...can you ELI5 or do I need to up my ADHD meds?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m saying that the comments under this post look manipulated, especially when compared with comments on Beehaw, which makes sense considering that beehaw excludes Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works which is where a ton of troll accounts come from.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you, this might be a sign that I do need to up my dosage 😭

Also, I agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah. My initial presentation was unclear. Partly because it’s such a weird conspiratorial thing to believe that I kind of had to come at it sideways.

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