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[–] Tattorack 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Um, yes. This might happen a lot less if these issues that need to be talked about aren't all blamed on guys. But still yes; we constantly hear about women's problems in various media all the time, while men are usually stuck having to use some comment section to talk about their problem.

[–] toynbee 10 points 1 month ago

Hey wait ... I'm in a comment section now!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We have groups like [email protected] available for talking about men's issues. The problem is that these groups often attract users who explicitly want to blame the issues faced by men, mostly or entirely on women. This derails the conversation similarly, and robs men of the autonomy to improve their situation, since if women are entirely to blame then there is little men can do to help themselves than pressure women to change (a bad solution). Plenty of users there try to shut that kind of toxicity down there, luckily. That does not stop that kind of interaction, though.

Think about the similar history of the Incel movement being hijacked by misogynists.

There are issues which both genders cause for each other, but there many more issues which every gender causes for themselves as well. It is best that we all own those issues we cause at the same time that we find solutions (for both internal and external issues) which don't cause issues for others. Otherwise we'll just continue in a war of the sexes.