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Why aren't you vegan? (vegantheoryclub.org)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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If you're at all aware of what goes in farming in Australia you know it's a massive horror show. From chicken macerators to pig gas chambers animals suffer massively to end up on your plate.

Every Australian I've ever spoken to describes themselves as loving animals, and is horrified at things such as whaling. Most of us even find activities like puppy milling or hunting upsetting.

In light of this; and the knowledge that a few decades ago whaling was a-ok, monkeys didn't matter, and elephants certainly didn't feel pain; what makes you confident that what you were raised to consider beneath consideration actually is?

Eating animals is neither necessary nor nice, so why do it?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Because a fully vegan/vego diet is not trivially accessible for me. I rarely prepare meals at home, and eat out/order in a lot, and the effort of moving to a fully vegan/vego diet would be non trivial.

A vegetarian diet is something I would quite happily adopt if it was more readily available, but it's not trivial, and it's not a high enough priority issue for me to be able to sustain a non trivial solution over the long term

[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you think about people who sideline trans justice issues because it would cost them social standing or friends etc?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't expect active support from everyone, but if there is a chance to support trans issues at no cost to yourself, I would expect people to make that choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about some cost though? Like if someone's friend is actively being transphobic you'd probably expect them to step in right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't expect people to lose friendships over an issue that is distant from their experiences, no.

I'd welcome push back, but we can't all prioritise every issue, and I don't expect people to. As long as they're not adding to the transphobia or encouraging it, they're on the correct side of things.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Well fair enough, if you think people should prioritise their own comfort over justice then at least you're consistent. It is beyond my ability to convince you otherwise.