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Israel could kill everyone left in Northern Gaza if its assault on the enclave continues, a United Nations relief official warned on Saturday

“Hospitals have been hit, and health workers have been detained. Shelters have been emptied and burned down. First responders have been prevented from saving people from under the rubble. Families have been separated, and men and boys are being taken away by the truckload,”

Msuya estimated that Israel’s actions in the north had killed hundreds and displaced tens of thousands. According to Al Jazeera, an Israeli siege on the north that began earlier in October has killed around 640.

“The Biden-Harris administration must stop the flow of U.S. weapons to Israel which constitutes a necessary step to halting Israel’s ongoing war crimes,” IMEU wrote on social media Saturday. “It’s time for an arms embargo now.”

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Is there, in your opinion ever a situation where the death of civilians is an acceptable trade off to reach military objectives?

For example: a school’s roof is used as a launch pad for rockets and its basement serves as weapons storage.

[–] CritFail 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

They aren't reaching military objectives. They are bombing schools and refugee camps with the intention of forcing the Palestinians to either leave Gaza or die.

We don't live in a Marvel-comic world of good versus bad. This is a terrorist organisation keeping a country hostage, versus a de facto autocrat with a doctrine to ethnically cleanse and reclaim Palestine for just inhabitation by jewish people.

In a population of 2.3 million, there are estimated between 20-30,000 Hamas fighters.

So far, Israel have killed 41,0000 Palestinians since last year. Going back further, Israel have killed 138,000, Palestinians since 1948 as they have slowly reclaimed Palestine.

And last time I checked, Hamas aren't in the West Bank, yet both IDF and Israeli settlers killed 642 Palestinians in the West Bank two months ago. How is that a military target?

There are utilitarian stances you can take on inadvertently killing civillians to achieve military targets with the aim of ending the war sooner, but this is just genocide.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Israeli settler terrorism is a crime according to Israeli law. It should be prosecuted accordingly.

Hamas is also in the West Bank, but they’re weaker there. There are plenty of other armed groups there as well and they have been active recently.

We don't live in a Marvel-comic world of good versus bad. This is a terrorist organisation keeping a country hostage

So much we agree on.

versus a de facto autocrat

Just to go off the rails right after.

[–] CritFail 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israeli settler terrorism is a crime according to Israeli law. It should be prosecuted accordingly.

Should, but won't.

Just to go off the rails right after

Netanyahu demonstrably is an autocrat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for providing a source for this argument. The article calls him aspiring autocrat, and I don’t disagree with that. He’s a corrupt and very shrewd politician.