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I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or just not using enough weed.

I've tried making cannabutter before but it's a ton of work and all I get is a mild buzz. I'm experienced smoker with high tolerances but people have said that this shouldn't be a factor with edibles because the active ingredient is different when it's processed by your liver. This doesn't seem true on my experience.

I don't care about taste - I just want to get high. Yesterday I made 'firecrackers' with 1g of grinded bud that I had decarbed in 120C (240f) for 40 minutes. I had it covered with foil and was monitoring the temperature with electric thermometer. I then sprinked this on top of a cracker with peanut butter on it and covered it with another one. Again - after an hour I realized I was somewhere at [3] which I could've achieved by just smoking a joint with half of that amount of weed.

What gives?

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[–] kikutwo 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Too hot, you aren't cooking a steak.

This is for informational purposes only. For medical advice or diagnosis, consult a professional. High temperatures can degrade cannabinoids and THC, including:

  • THCA: The acidic form of THC, THCA, is particularly sensitive to heat. It can degrade into CBN and CBD at temperatures as low as 50°C (122°F).
  • THC: THC itself is more stable than THCA, but it can still degrade at higher temperatures. Prolonged exposure to temperatures above 100°C (212°F) can significantly reduce THC potency. It's important to store cannabis products in a cool, dark place to preserve their potency.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is what I don't get. There's enormous differences in the instructions I'm getting when I try googling for instructions and I have no idea which ones to trust. This doesn't seem like the kind of question that there is no right answer to.

  • Leafly.com -> 220F (105C) 30 - 40min
  • weedmaps.com -> 250F (121C) - 20min
  • Herb.co -> 240F (115C) - 30 - 40min
  • wikihow.com -> 240F (115C) - 60min
  • Dude on Lemmy -> 122F (50C) and never above 212F (100C)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/26/14/4113 In this paper it seems to suggest that you would be fine decarbing up to 135°C (or 275°F) but at that temp you would only want to decarb for ~15 minutes (based on figure 8).

Based on figure 7, decarbing at 115°C (or 240°F) for 30 minutes would convert just around half of your THC-A to THC, so 60 minutes would convert around 75%. Most places recommend something around this level because it is easier to not mess up 30-60 minutes than to not mess up not more than 15 minutes, and you don't need to convert ALL of it in order to get a functional product.

Disclaimer: I have relatively little experience making edibles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I guess that 50 minutes around 115C would be close to optimal. The heat on my oven fluctuates a lot so I need to use a digital thermometer to monitor and babysit it constantly. It varies between 110C and 125C when done this way so I'd assume that in less than an hour most of it would be converted.

[–] kikutwo 2 points 1 month ago

But if lower won't degrade it then go lower. I used coconut oil and abv worked great. Just set it in a water bath inside a ball jar in a crockpot on low and the only problem was I made way too much. Only a couple tablespoons go in the levo gummy mix I used and it was good to go.

[–] Dasus 1 points 1 month ago

THCA: The acidic form of THC, THCA, is particularly sensitive to heat. It can degrade into CBN and CBD at temperatures as low as 50°C (122°F).

TIL. TY.