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I need help understanding views on Russia and Ukraine (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Is there an actual support for the Russian state, or is it propaganda to counter the pro-western propaganda?

I'm not very educated on this topic, so I come from a place of genuine curiosity. It just seems to me that many people here are pro Russia and anti Ukraine, and if that's the case, I would like to understand why.

In my eyes, the conflict in Ukraine bears no resemblance of class war. Of course I know of the nazi infested military groups sponsored by the Ukrainian government stationed in eastern Ukraine to kill the separatist movement. But I'm hesitant to trust any capitalist government to fight for actual people and their rights. This scepticism of course include the Russian state.

Please understand that this is my current understanding of the situation, and I struggle to get a better understanding of it. Mainstream media isn't doing me any favors in that regard, so I hope some of you guys are more educated in this topic than I am, and can point me to articles and news that depict this through a marxist lens.

Love and solidarity

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/687025

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Great thread about the topic

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That thread is the first I’ve seen that looks at this as a conflict in a larger NATO Russia war, rather than purely Russia Ukraine. Good perspective shift

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Just to drive the point home, the fact that the conflict is close to 18 months old now and this is the first time you're seeing a framing of NATO v Russia (and really USA v Russia through NATO via Ukraine as proxy) means that your news sources are incredibly skewed towards US war propaganda.