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[–] solomon42069 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

As a career WordPress developer, I fully support WordPress’s stance on this issue. It’s unreasonable for a company to siphon resources from a non-profit to fuel their own hosting business.

For smaller companies, lacking the ability to manage their own updates or CI/CD processes is understandable. But WPEngine is a large organization—they have the resources and capacity to handle these issues in-house. They could have easily avoided this situation without turning it into a turf war.

Edit: I see the WPEngine fans have arrived. Feel free to downvote, but that doesn’t make you right!

[–] x1gma 18 points 1 month ago (9 children)

You also don't get to randomly change license terms because you're having a childish meltdown because someone earns money with an open source product while according to the terms of the license of the said product.

You also don't steal code from a user of your platform and maliciously redirect to your fork.

This is not about WPE vs Matt's lack of brain cells. This is also not about hardlining on what's open source or not. But Matt needs to lose this fight, not only because of his decisions, but because if he wins, he not only successfully burned down WordPress, but the open source ecosystem as a whole.

If you publish something with a license that allows people to earn money without paying a share to you, don't be butthurt if people won't do that. And if you don't want that - change the license properly and carry the consequences.

[–] solomon42069 22 points 1 month ago (8 children)

What on Earth are you on about? This has nothing to do with licensing. The issue is a business using another organization’s resources without paying for it, all while earning a profit for themselves.

This isn't about open source, personal attacks, or "brain cells." It’s about fairness and the responsible use of resources. WPEngine is a profitable company that has the means to manage its own infrastructure instead of relying on WordPress.org’s updates system. If you're going to run a business that depends on open-source software, there’s an expectation of contributing back or, at the very least, not exploiting the resources of a non-profit.

So let’s focus on the actual problem: a large company exploiting a shared ecosystem to run a commercial service.

[–] Jivebunny 8 points 1 month ago

You do realize, mullenberg is also owner of automattic? A large WordPress hosting provider just like wpengine?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/20/wordpress-vs-wp-engine-drama-explained/

He has some points, mullenberg, but the fact that he's one of three really only active heads of WordPress.org and ceo of automattic, which has wpengine as its direct competitor, just tastes foul.

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